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Newbie-ess & problem

"I have followed all the advice about co-habbing such as separate feeding and multiple hides and so forth."

That is not advice on cohabbing, even solitary snakes should be fed in a container seperate from their Viv and have multiple hides...
 
Candachan said:
"I have followed all the advice about co-habbing such as separate feeding and multiple hides and so forth."

That is not advice on cohabbing, even solitary snakes should be fed in a container seperate from their Viv and have multiple hides...
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Aw Candice, cut her some slack!
When you are an expert in OH SO MANY areas, it has to be horrible to be so consistantly wrong about your very own animals!
 
One of my favorite and oft quoted sayings around here is "Its never a problem until it becomes a problem".
In your case, the problem has already manifested itself in one snake not eating. I don't know what other proof you need. Waiting to try again whilst still cohabbing is not the answer. What if it eats this time - and then refuses again next time? How many times before you will admit that it is a problem? The best, safest, smartest thing that you can do for your snakes is to separate them now before it becomes worse. Maybe it isn't what you want to hear, but it is the truth.
Yes, one may be a little stressed to start with a move to a new living environment, but it will settle in and be ready to eat again much quicker than in a continued forced cohabitation with another snake.

You have to understand that people on this forum are passionate about their reptiles. Sometimes they may sound harsh in their replies, but we have seen too many cases of people cohabbing (or other no-no's) that have led to serious injury, sickness or death in snakes. And in a lot of those cases those individuals were given similar advice and chose to ignore it because they didn't believe it was a problem (until it became a problem).
People here aren't worried about hurting individual feelings, they are worried about the health and safety of the snakes first and foremost.
 
I didn't mean stress in the usual manner, as in 'oh I've had a stressful day', I meant stress (to be specific, distress rather than eustress) caused by a less than ideal environment which is very often signalled in reptiles by a reusal to feed, which is what you were worried about. I'm not going to test blood cortisol levels in my snakes, but I can chart their feeding and growth rates to try to work out if I'm following good husbandry practice.
Hey, That 'never a problem quote' comes from me!
 
starsevol said:
Aw Candice, cut her some slack!
When you are an expert in OH SO MANY areas, it has to be horrible to be so consistantly wrong about your very own animals!
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When you've watched 5 friends suicide from a no-blame medical condition as a result of years of abuse they've had from other people and incorrect advice from doctors you can bitch about how I react to know-it-alls.

When you have watched someone you love die in her early 20s from cancer after her doctors told her "cant be that you are too young" you can tell me that its a good idea to blindly follow what others tell you whether they are expert or not.

I've read everything stated and I will do what I have said. conversation closed. Advice - not orders, is what I asked for.
 
JemmaUK said:
When you've watched 5 friends suicide from a no-blame medical condition as a result of years of abuse they've had from other people and incorrect advice from doctors you can bitch about how I react to know-it-alls.

When you have watched someone you love die in her early 20s from cancer after her doctors told her "cant be that you are too young" you can tell me that its a good idea to blindly follow what others tell you whether they are expert or not.

I've read everything stated and I will do what I have said. conversation closed. Advice - not orders, is what I asked for.
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Clearly an attention seeker... stop giving it to her!!
 
Katie612 said:
Clearly an attention seeker... stop giving it to her!!
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I know, from child abuse to rare disease, to rape to cancer, to mystical affinity to animals (when her own husbandry might be killing one of her own)...to telling the future to publishing books.....
And if you are a "normal" person and don't know "what it's like" to blah blah blah then I don't need to listen to youuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....

This thread is about a non feeding hatchling, that apparently is not being properly cared for (or else it would be eating).
We all know why it isn't eating, but the owner seems more inclined to feed the drama llama than to listen and learn....
 
JemmaUK said:
When you've watched 5 friends suicide from a no-blame medical condition as a result of years of abuse they've had from other people and incorrect advice from doctors you can bitch about how I react to know-it-alls.

When you have watched someone you love die in her early 20s from cancer after her doctors told her "cant be that you are too young" you can tell me that its a good idea to blindly follow what others tell you whether they are expert or not.

I've read everything stated and I will do what I have said. conversation closed. Advice - not orders, is what I asked for.
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With the amount of things that you have been through, it makes hard reading... Like a soap opera...
Then comes the book writing, inventions and affinity to animals...
Add to that a cross between CSI and a Ghost whisperer who works for the police and can tell things from a photo.....
You missed the smell that surrounds you..... Smells like BS to me.... Sorry I may be too cynical for you, but if any of this is true, Im sorry....
What books have you written and which police force do you work for?.... I'll enquiry and verify your story..
 
I don't understand how one can publish books, work for the police, etc without having enough money for a second vivarium.

Prices must be really different in the UK. I got my setup for $130.
 
Dazzles said:
I don't understand how one can publish books, work for the police, etc without having enough money for a second vivarium.

Prices must be really different in the UK. I got my setup for $130.
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I deleted my first response and replaced it with this...
Prices in the UK are pretty much as cheap as the US where rubs etc are concerned....
 
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Jemma, I hope your snake eats for you. I don't want to get involved anymore, I don't care about your childhood/adult tragedies, I don't want to show you my scars either (this is a snake forum, not a drunken night on a boat waiting for a great white shark). If your mysical abilities can heal your snake, good for you!
 
diamondlil said:
Jemma, I hope your snake eats for you. I don't want to get involved anymore, I don't care about your childhood/adult tragedies, I don't want to show you my scars either (this is a snake forum, not a drunken night on a boat waiting for a great white shark). If your mysical abilities can heal your snake, good for you!
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WOW, been gone awhile, but as Lil is pointing out this is not the place to tell us your "stuff".
I will say before this forum I co-habbed two hatchlings one stopped eating at no point did anyone tell me to seperate them, as a result one died. Yes there are mixed opinions and some cases where co-habbing is necessary and works temporarily. It is never the ideal.
I will also add your snakes don't have the capacity for affection for each other or you, hate to say but they aren't in love, don't like each other and tolerate being handled by humans.
 
susang said:
WOW, been gone awhile, but as Lil is pointing out this is not the place to tell us your "stuff".
I will say before this forum I co-habbed two hatchlings one stopped eating at no point did anyone tell me to seperate them, as a result one died. Yes there are mixed opinions and some cases where co-habbing is necessary and works temporarily. It is never the ideal.
I will also add your snakes don't have the capacity for affection for each other or you, hate to say but they aren't in love, don't like each other and tolerate being handled by humans.
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Susan..... Good to see you back and with great advice as usual.....
Now I seem to remember you were our troll detector back in the day.... LOL
 
Dazzles said:
I don't understand how one can publish books, work for the police, etc without having enough money for a second vivarium.

Prices must be really different in the UK. I got my setup for $130.
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No, it's because:

1) "Publishing books" can be done for free on the Internet. You can self-publish a book and frankly I've seen enough crappy self-published books in my day. Doubtful that anyone besides sympathetic friends would buy one, and even more doubtful that they contain anything worth reading.

2) "Working for the police" as in calling them repeatedly or stopping by with silly "psychic" advice so that around the police station you are well-known and humored because they feel bad. You don't get paid for being a nuisance.

Now I'll wait for her response that I'm a terrible person because her entire family was murdered by self-published books and how dare I
 
Candachan said:
No, it's because:

1) "Publishing books" can be done for free on the Internet. You can self-publish a book and frankly I've seen enough crappy self-published books in my day. Doubtful that anyone besides sympathetic friends would buy one, and even more doubtful that they contain anything worth reading.

2) "Working for the police" as in calling them repeatedly or stopping by with silly "psychic" advice so that around the police station you are well-known and humored because they feel bad. You don't get paid for being a nuisance.

Now I'll wait for her response that I'm a terrible person because her entire family was murdered by self-published books and how dare I
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:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
Candachan said:
No, it's because:

1) "Publishing books" can be done for free on the Internet. You can self-publish a book and frankly I've seen enough crappy self-published books in my day. Doubtful that anyone besides sympathetic friends would buy one, and even more doubtful that they contain anything worth reading.

2) "Working for the police" as in calling them repeatedly or stopping by with silly "psychic" advice so that around the police station you are well-known and humored because they feel bad. You don't get paid for being a nuisance.

Now I'll wait for her response that I'm a terrible person because her entire family was murdered by self-published books and how dare I
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Bad, bad person kicking a person while they are down. Someday you will be the subject of the fourth or is it fifth book. Which many will buy just to prove how bad you are, as you probably drove the bus that hit the family.
As for "psychic" advice please I am right at least once a day, for instance tomorrow the sun will come up, unless it's late December 2012, then who knows only the Mayans.
Then there was the day many years ago when.... and I..... and I.....
All the while the snakes are cuddled in a ball, when she doesn't eat again, maybe she will take advice but then again only if she is one with the snakes that day.
peace out "the troll hunter"
 
Thank you for the honour *bows*

its nice to be right as well. I suspected co-hab had nothing to do with claudia not eating - so I did something a little different with the food, went back to doing what I had done at the start - and she struck @ it so fast I didnt see her move, walked her mouth to the right spot and down it went...

The male is now in blue - oddly enough I felt it before I saw any signs - his skin felt sort of sticky not smooth. Im leaving him to get on with it & misting the viv more to help with that.

As to the police stuff, I am not going to go into for two reasons - one being its fairly gruesome and unpleasant & the second being I am not allowed to do so. What you believe is your issue, I really have no interest if you have flat earth disease. Its a common condition in Pans Narrans or so I am led to believe, since I am hardly an expert now am I?...
 
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