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Quint hets...

Tula_Montage

Tula_Montage

It's Jager time!
Is it worth it? What are the chances of breeding two normals together that have 5 identicle hets and producing a corn thats homo all 5 traits? Are there usually more normals than morphs or more double homo morphs than anything else? I understand it's entirley luck of the draw...

Anyone got any quad or quint het breeding experiences to share?
 
Elle,
This year I am breeding a trio. They are het hypo, lav, and diffused and possibly het amel, anery and charcoal.
According to the genetics calculator, the likelyhood of a baby exhibiting all traits is pretty dismal. And nearly 50% should be normals.
BUT, I intend to keep a pair or trio of diffuzzled something-or-others that are possibly het for anything not homozygeous. Then the odds get better! :)
 
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I understand, but these animals are 100% het for all 5 traits... and believe it or not I don't want them for the super duper corn at the end, I want them for a double homo bi-product LOL!

I don't want to be keeping anything back from them apart from a pair of the homo animals I want.
 
It's easy to calculate the probabilities of homozygous combination of all implicated alleles in a het to het cross.

(2^n)^2 = total probability of combinations

where:
n = number of alleles considered
^ = superscript

In your case (2^5)^2 = 1024. So one out of 1024 combinations can be homozygous for all 5 alleles considered.

1/[(2^n)^2] x 100 = homozygous for all alleles considered, in %

in your case, 0,098% chance to see a homozygous for all 5 alleles from het to het crossing.
 
I understand the statistics. Thanks for explaning it differently though... I understand it that way better. I'm just wanting to know how many people have bred quad and qint hets and what was there results.
 
Oh no its helped me lots! I understand the ratios and percentages better now. But of course we all know it's all very good in theory yet rarley goes as planned in practise.
 
I was fooling around with the thought of pairing Butter (unknown hets) with one of my anery stripes h-amel and then looking at what the offspring would produce. It gave me a headache. So I stopped looking and opened a beer.
 
Or pehaps and I will go handle the new spidies, get them to flick hairs in my face and die. Thats a great retreat from corn genetics eh :)
 
It would be fun to have a pair of them, just for the surprise you could get every time they had a clutch. Especially if you mix in some of less common "morphs", and threw in a pattern gene too, like stripe to make it interesting. Sure the odds stack higher and higher against double, triple and more expressions, but think of thrill it would be if you DID ever beat the odds :*)
 
I suppose you are very right cka. That is afterall one of the nice things about breeding multi het animals, the surprise you get in return! Well I will be thinking hard about this before I bring normals into my house LOL
 
Elle, I have a few triple, quad het, and quint het groups, possibly a sextet het ( Not the mystery line eithier.. ) Tell you next year how some of them breedings turn out, or actually you will see the end results.. I might have to breed for quite some time to get the one I am looking for..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

tag 2666
 
We have a trio of quad hets. The only reason I have kept them this long is the surprise every year that we get. It's actually a lot of fun, trying to figure out exactly what you have. although the genetics would say that I would get 50% normals, I never do......generally I only get three or four and the rest are some strange concoction of the genes. It's like, guess that corn snake whenever a little head pops out!
 
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