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Release or Euthanize Cornsnakes? What's your opinion?
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jpccusa
Happy with this new hobby
I am curious as well. I even went to her profile to see if she has a picture posted there and nothing.
Are you complimenting her beauty based on her postings? :roflmao:
ziggybond_007
Team Laura
If a snake is deformed, ill, or refuses to eat, being released into the wild is one of the cruelest things you can do. When you bred your snakes, you took on the responsibility of the lives of all of the offspring. Sure, you may not want to watch the little animal die, but it would be the kindest way. Most of the morphs that have issues wouldn't survive or thrive in the wild simply because they lack the camouflage necessary, especially if they were ill or deformed before release. Plus the range of the cornsnake is not across the US, but only a region. I bought two of my corns from Maine, you really think they'd survive if released there?
Chip
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I'm starting the Wade fan club.
And for some controversy regarding the thread subject... I have released scores if not hundreds of corns into the wild. For a few short years, I hunted Okeetee every spring. I had quite a collection after a while and some offspring weren't pretty enough. Many were extra males. Some didn't feed consistently. A few others had nasty dispositions. I had no qualms with taking them back to the area in which I collected their parents and releasing them. A few years when I couldn't make it down, I sent them with a friend to release. One year I paid shipping to send 30-odd yearlings I had no plans for to Davie Jones to release for me.
As for releasing them where they aren't native, that's a horrible idea. I have corns in my own back yard and am hesitant to release my captives here. There's a reason the corns around here are rather drab and the ones on the coast are bright, I imagine. And most morphs would have a decidedly disadvantage in the wild as well.
And for some controversy regarding the thread subject... I have released scores if not hundreds of corns into the wild. For a few short years, I hunted Okeetee every spring. I had quite a collection after a while and some offspring weren't pretty enough. Many were extra males. Some didn't feed consistently. A few others had nasty dispositions. I had no qualms with taking them back to the area in which I collected their parents and releasing them. A few years when I couldn't make it down, I sent them with a friend to release. One year I paid shipping to send 30-odd yearlings I had no plans for to Davie Jones to release for me.
As for releasing them where they aren't native, that's a horrible idea. I have corns in my own back yard and am hesitant to release my captives here. There's a reason the corns around here are rather drab and the ones on the coast are bright, I imagine. And most morphs would have a decidedly disadvantage in the wild as well.
jpccusa
Happy with this new hobby
And I thought you had changed your mind... as I can see, you were just afraid of showing your opinion due to lack of... huh huh... support.
Hallie
SNOW!!!!
Now I think you're picking on him a little bit. Nowhere in his posts did I feel that he 'changed his mind.' He just seemed to back off a bit after getting, how did he put it...stoned to death. I probably would have backed off too for awhile to clear my head so I could come back to the debate with more info/better planned responses/etc.
Sorry had some stuff to do and this thread had jumped several pages.
Wade is awesome. And it's true I guess, if your opinion doesn't seem to be popular or is rude or something like that, just keep it to yourself. "Don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" ring a bell?
And if you feel we're attacking you, I really don't think so. You started this debate in another thread and instead of sitting there arguing back and forth offtopic, I decided it best to start a thread where we could get everyone's opinions instead of just mine and yours. Is that so bad?
And I think what elrojo is saying is a lot differen than releasing SICK/KINKED animals into the wild. I don't mean to split hairs here, but I don't see how him taking snakes from and putting them back into the wild is so bad. From the information posted it seems they were Okeetees/Normals whose parents had been taken from the same area. And the reasons he listed as releasing them didn't say anything about being a possible threat.
I still kind of disagree with it, but from what he's said it's no where near as bad as releasing say... a captive bred Caramel cornsnake that was kinked severly at birth and now refuses to feed. :shrugs:
Maybe I am just splitting hairs...
Wade is awesome. And it's true I guess, if your opinion doesn't seem to be popular or is rude or something like that, just keep it to yourself. "Don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" ring a bell?
And if you feel we're attacking you, I really don't think so. You started this debate in another thread and instead of sitting there arguing back and forth offtopic, I decided it best to start a thread where we could get everyone's opinions instead of just mine and yours. Is that so bad?
And I think what elrojo is saying is a lot differen than releasing SICK/KINKED animals into the wild. I don't mean to split hairs here, but I don't see how him taking snakes from and putting them back into the wild is so bad. From the information posted it seems they were Okeetees/Normals whose parents had been taken from the same area. And the reasons he listed as releasing them didn't say anything about being a possible threat.
I still kind of disagree with it, but from what he's said it's no where near as bad as releasing say... a captive bred Caramel cornsnake that was kinked severly at birth and now refuses to feed. :shrugs:
Maybe I am just splitting hairs...
Chip
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No disrespect, but I didn't really "agree" with your take on releasing captive corns into the wild vs. euthanizing. I am dealing with F1 animals with specific locality data, and they are/were being released exactly where they came from* and are the normal color morph. Turning any old corn loose in your local woods would be irresponsible, and a crime if corns are not native to that area.
*at least within a day's crawling distance, since I spread them each out a few hundred feet.
Eli173
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Can we please stay on-topic here folks?
Only because you asked so nicely.
1) Is it ok to release unwanted/unhealthy Cornsnakes in your backyard?
Can you guarantee it will never leave your yard?? If so, go ahead. If it's an unwanted, healthy, normal or Okeetee (with no hets), released into their natural habitat...then I can't argue against it. Any other circumstances would be a big NO.
Aside from the valid environmental arguments, take a moment to think of the herper that lives not far away. They find a corn in their home or yard thinking it's an escaped pet. They take it in and spend their time, money and emotions trying to care for it only to have it end up being a bad experience.
Think of the people living nearby who don't know jack about reptiles. They find a snake in their yard/home and totally freak out because it doesn't look like snakes they are used to seeing. Next thing you know we have some more great press for our hobby that we love so much and (if we are really lucky) the press will educate us on how "corn snakes are not poisonous."
2) Should you euthanize or let nature decide by doing nothing for sick/deformed/refusing to eat snakes?
Sick? No, take it to the vet. Can’t afford it? Try cutting extra expenses like the internet…
Deformed? Yes and no. A deformity that will not affect long term health I’ll leave up to the breeder, otherwise yes.
Not eating? If it’s in bad shape and you have tried everything, yes, end its suffering.
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