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scales?

Thank you all very much...

Your sympathy is very appreciated...

It was a very hard thing to do...hope I don't have to make that decision too often...culling freshly hatched animals would be MUCH easier than having had to do this with an animal that I worked so HARD to recondition for so long.
 
Has there been any suspicion mentioned about some type of genetic disorder where her skin is unable to use, manufacture or retain a vital component like fat, cholesterol, or something required by the skin for suppelness and waterproofing. Her condition may not be directly caused by hydration problems. There just might be a herp vet or herp Phd out there that is researching such a condition or would be fascinated and helpful. This is my logic, if water loosens her up, but is not changing or correcting the problem, than it is only treating the symptoms. The problem might be due to a disorder within the skin itself. Especially with the systems that protect the skin and keep it supple. She may actually be missing a layer of tissue that makes up the skin. This could be a completely new disorder or disease.

My memory, as I read your description, jumps to psittacine beak and feather disease. Why can't inbred snakes, over time, develop skin disorders of their own. Why don't you try some type of safe, nontoxic fat or heavy duty moisturizer. Crisco, Aloe vera gel, sunburn moisturizer, Aveeno, something like this. Then wrap her in a soft piece of sheet for a while to let the moisturizer work before its rubbed off. Pick something organic?, Natural, free of undesierables like alcohol, perfumes, colorings, preservatives, medicine, other suspect chemicals.

I am taking some heady liberties encouraging you to do things to your snake. I just have a gut instinct about this-even though I haven't witnesses it for myself- that it is not a hydration disorder per se. All the fluids she ingests can very possibly be being lost simply through the skin itself. Damaged skin can not hold water in. And your description of the skin itself and the abnormal scales just sparks something in my collective memory.

Did your vet ever suggest doing a skin biopsy? A culture? This sounds invasive, maybe even radical. But IMO, they are reasonable steps to take that might provide some valuable information and treatment ideas. Maybe she can be supplemented with a hormone, cortisone?, levothyroxine? that could prove effective treatment and reverse the symptoms and damage somewhat. I don't know. I feel compelled to offer any idea I have to contirbute.

I hope you don't just give up on her yet, but decide to try some of the ideas I have suggested. Also, I would be very pleased and grateful to be kept up to date via this forum.

If you give up and decide not to go on, consider letting someone else try, especially with regard to the diagnostic work. I would be willing to do that. Just call me a bleeding heart sucker.


Thanks for allowing me to offer my Two Cents.
May God Bless.
 
You are to be commended for having been so commited to her care and for the efforts and persistence you invested in the hope.
 
Thanks...

I almost kept her to allow someone to research her...but...I did not.
She was in perfect health for several months previous to the onslaught of this condition...which in itself lasted several months.
My guess (and it is only a guess) is that she had a kidney failure of some sort.
Whatever it was is definitely NOT contagious. She actually shared a divided 20g L tank with a Thayeri kingsnake female...they were purchased at the same time, from the same dealer...so were kept in the divided tank from day one. They were both kept apart from the rest of my collection (and the Thayeri still is today...just to be sure, but she will move into a divided 40 with her future mate soon)..but the thayeri shows absolutely no signs of problems...and never has. I last spoke with the breeder the 1st of January...they related that they have never had this problem with any of their milks...or any of their snakes for that matter...they also gave me some advice for rehydrating...but like Coyote said, seems like we were addressing the symptoms and not the problem...
Personally, I believe I did everything I could for her.
The problem was definitely systemic, be it the kidneys or the skin...and for all purposes was most likely incurable regardless.
 
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