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Strawberry Genes???

Tara80 said:
...Also, one must note - many of these genes will show through as het. It is believed that both red factor AND strawberry can show themselves when het, in certain morph compounds...
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I just want to throw another 2 cents in the ring. I just recently e-mailed Don with some questions about Strawberry gene and he says that they are starting to suspect that Strawberry is actually dominant. (Like Tara said showing through in hets) With that being the case, they are actually trying to see if a homozygous Strawberry would actually have a super-dominant form with extra saturation or whatnot, or if it is visually the same as a dominant het Strawberry. Tricky stuff.
 
ZiggysMom said:
This has been a very interesting thread. Thanks everyone.
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I will say it has. Glad I started the thing. I only did because I want to make some Salmon Ghost/Snow. I am still not sure there is a straight answer to this. Some say there is Strawberry in them, some say they are just nice line breed pink anerys (like this one guy at Daytona selling them), others say it is Hypo/Strawberry and I am sure there are other opinions out there. All I know is I want a Salmon Ghost/Snow and dont have funds to buy any out right.
 
does anyone have, or is there a topic with good comparison pics between hypo A and strawberry (as hatchling and adult?)
Thanks anyway
 
I know, I allready looked there, but they don't have any side-by-side pics of hypoA and strawberry :)
 
stephen said:
Corals Snows arent pink because of Hypo A ,imo Hypo A has no affect on Amel.
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100% agree. Remember the ol' "It can only be a sunglow if it is a hypo amel?" Sunglows were already bright orange amels, all the hypo did was "blur" (reduce) the borders. I'm with Stephen, and jmho I don't think hypo A has anything to do with any of the "pink" morphs out there.
 
I just think strawberry is a pretty morph and I'd like one as a pet. If anyone has one that is non breeder material or wants to retire a breeder give me a pm.
 
Tania said:
does anyone have, or is there a topic with good comparison pics between hypo A and strawberry (as hatchling and adult?)
Thanks anyway
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These may be the worst pics ever, but the strawberry girl wouldn't be still and I snapped them quickly with my droid on my lunch break. Hopefully they'll give you some idea of the difference. Strawberry girl is the hatchling, hypo boy is the yearling. I guess I'd describe the color difference as hypo being more orange/rusty and strawberry being a more true red.

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comparison pics.

1. Hypo Amel Stripe.

2. Hypo classic het lavender.

3. Hypo het Strawberry (and het a mess of other things too).

4. HypoStrawberry Pinstripe Motley (one gene each hypo & strawberry on the hypo locus).
Hypo Amel. 2 Strawberry genes on the hypo locus.
 

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Now I'm confused lol

I was under the impression that Hypo and Strawberry acted similar to Ultra and Amel. i.e You cant have a hypo het strawberry or strawberry het hypo, similarly you cant have an amel het ultra or Ultra het amel :shrugs:
 
chris68 said:
I was under the impression that Hypo and Strawberry acted similar to Ultra and Amel. i.e You cant have a hypo het strawberry or strawberry het hypo, similarly you cant have an amel het ultra or Ultra het amel :shrugs:
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That is my understanding as well. You can have either a hypo/hypo, a hypo/strawberry or a strawberry/strawberry, nothing else. There may be some confusion in naming as I've seen some breeders call strawberry "strawberry hypo" when hypo A is not involved and others use hypo strawberry or strawberry hypo when they mean the snake has one of each gene. It's that ol' "motley stripe/striped motley" thing again.
 
Kevin S had a good suggestion, and I'm surprised more of us aren't doing this. Suggested to him by Chuck P, use a USB connected microscope to record pigment cell "color" (not so much a color change as a change from lighter to darker) changes thru a shed cycle of suspected strawberries. Supposedly Hypos, strawberries and hypo/strawberries can be differentiated by the way the pigment cells appear and change thru a shed cycle. Chuck's one of the few guys I'd take what he's found at face value, and I found usb microscopes online last nite for $60.00. :)
 
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