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[SnakeAround]

Manda en Joe, those are some seriously good looking tesseras!

 

[ecreipeoj]

Those should make some awesome babies in the future Joe! Congrats!

Thanks, now I need to get Sunkissed bred to my adult Tessera het Ghost this year. I really like the aberrant patterns of the Sunkissed Tessera. At first we all thought Tesseras would be known for their perfect patterns, but obviously, the patterns of Tessera is affected by the same genes as we have bred into our Normal Patterned Corns. Sunkissed often causes aberrant patterns, but I think the border-less gene, is the cause of most unusual patterns, while Okeetee causes the clean patterns.

Here are a couple of very aberrant patterned Tesseras I produce this year. My adult Tessera is aberrant to start with, so he did produce quite a few aberrant patterns, but he also produced some very nicely striped Tessera when bred to Striped Corns, which goes to show that he is most likely just het Border-less.

First up is this female Tessera het Bloodred ph Ghost from the Frase Bloodred line. Her side pattern crossed over her back in several areas. Second is a female Anery Tessera het Amel Motley ph Hypo. Her striping is wider than normal and aberrant, plus she has extreme contrast and is almost black and white.

 

[SnakeAround]

No no no, you do not have the most aberrant Tessera Joe I do:

 

[ecreipeoj]

No no no, you do not have the most aberrant Tessera Joe I do:

Cool, an aberrant Okeetee. You don't use those two words together very often.

 

[SnakeAround]

Eh... it is a Tessera from Don S., not an abberant Okeetee.

 

[ecreipeoj]

Tessera siblings

Help identify the other genes they are expressing?

 

[Drewby07]

Just a guess, but I'd say the one facing left looks hypo (maybe strawberry?), the one in the middle looks like an anery with a lot of brown...maybe even a caramel? ...the one on the right a normal?

 

[dave partington]

Help identify the other genes they are expressing?

It's rather difficult for me to imagine you have any snakes with fewer than 22 genes coursing through their veins there. Looks like some leaky Christmas Cherry RF1 RF2 Strawberry Blood Amel Hypo Sunkissed Lava MuckUmPluckUms. I'd be quite happy to raise them up and do a few test breedings for you.

 

[ecreipeoj]

Just a guess, but I'd say the one facing left looks hypo (maybe strawberry?), the one in the middle looks like an anery with a lot of brown...maybe even a caramel? ...the one on the right a normal?

I was hoping to hear Caramel. The Breeding was Tessera het Silverqueen x Caramel Bloodred het Hypo. When you know the breeding, the Hypo Tessera and Tessera are easy, but I produced two very dark Tessera in this clutch as well. They are both females. Here is the second one. She has a little more red in her dark brown area, but is that due to RedCoat? Are they dark, just because they are RedCoat Tesseras het Caramel Bloodred?

The closest morph I have seen is in fact Caramel and Caramel is on the mothers side for sure. Nobody has really split apart Silverqueen and seen its parts. Is a Silverqueen homo Hypo Anery Caramel? I have seen some Silverqueens with a lot of yellow. The Silverqueen could have been carrying Caramel as het of course, but what does make Silverqueens look different than normal Ghost?

 

[Drewby07]

Hmmmmmmm....in that case I'd say the coloration you're seeing MIGHT be from being het blood. What do the bellies look like? I've hatched some normals from blood pairings that had darker / browner colors than normal...

 

[SnakeAround]

I do not see any reason to think they are caramel, I see bits of orange but no yellow. I say they just fall within the range of variation in normal coloring. What are their sexes?

 

[ecreipeoj]

I do not see any reason to think they are caramel, I see bits of orange but no yellow. I say they just fall within the range of variation in normal coloring. What are their sexes?

Both of the dark Tessera are females.

Here are two more photos of a pair of the normal Tessera from the clutch along with a photo of the dard Tess with more red and the group photo again for comparison.

I wouldn't go as far as to sa "normal" variation. There definitely seems to be an on/off effect from something.

 

[SnakeAround]

I do see a difference but without clutch mates I'd say normal for the darker ones. Maybe there is an evil hybrid influence from the hybrid cross that made Tessera's (Today someone on a Dutch forum mentioned Tessera as a morph (among others) suspected being bred in by hybridization, I am tired tired of people with complot theories but great for jokes )

Yet, too much orange for caramel. If the dark ones where not anery like right after birth, they are not Kastanie either, but they do look like that a lot tough.

 

[ecreipeoj]

I do see a difference but without clutch mates I'd say normal for the darker ones. Maybe there is an evil hybrid influence from the hybrid cross that made Tessera's (Today someone on a Dutch forum mentioned Tessera as a morph (among others) suspected being bred in by hybridization, I am tired tired of people with complot theories but great for jokes )

Blasphemy, hearsay, no factual basis. It has become a JOKE to say the least. Each and every new morph that is discovered is labeled as hybrids automatically. I think jealousy is the driving force behind it.

Yet, too much orange for caramel. If the dark ones where not anery like right after birth, they are not Kastanie either, but they do look like that a lot tough.

I can't talk myself into calling them Caramel Tesseras either, but they are close. You don't see many other chocolate looking Corns around. I am beginning to think the darker color is due to them being RedCoats. All RedCoats are darker when they are young.

Here is my hold back Anery Tessera het Striped Dilute ph Hypo, from a breeding of Tessera het Silverqueen X Striped Dilute. As you can see by comparing him to my Anery Tessera ph Blizzard, the Silverqueen influence gives him a slight hypomelanistic look. When he was first born, I thought he was a Blue Tessera, but now I think he picked up something from the Silverqueen that caused him to be lighter.

It is almost like a dominant hypo gene. My adult Tessera is pretty light, so he could be het dominant hypo gene, which would enable him to produced light and normal colored offspring.

 

[Drewby07]

I noticed the same "blush" on my guy from you Joe.....he just shed and WOW is be light....almost had me thinking he was a ghost. It's going to be very interesting to see what that turns out to be!

 

[Christen]

I want an anery tessera so bad. lol Your pictures just make it worse.

 

[ecreipeoj]

I noticed the same "blush" on my guy from you Joe.....he just shed and WOW is be light....almost had me thinking he was a ghost. It's going to be very interesting to see what that turns out to be!

Blush is pretty descriptive of the look. I considered Ghost as well, since Blues can be het for Hypo, but when compared to other Ghost Tesseras, they are not even close.

 

[SnakeAround]

It is interesting indeed. I have a line that has both darker and lighter off spring too, why should there not be a dominant hypo gene in the pool. Or more than one. Are you gonna try to find out?

 

[ecreipeoj]

It is interesting indeed. I have a line that has both darker and lighter off spring too, why should there not be a dominant hypo gene in the pool. Or more than one. Are you gonna try to find out?

There seems to be a lot of morphs with lighter examples of each, even Butters. Some Butters are much lighter than others that are more butterscotch.

Perhaps the lighter shade of gray we see on my Anery Tess het Striped Dilute is due to the dominant yellow gene my Tessera carries as het. It may be the cause of the lighter shades of color we see in other morphs too. Here is a comparison of two offspring from my Tessera this year.

The first is a Tessera het Caramel ph Lava Ghost and the second is Tessera het Striped Amel ph Ghost. The Tessera het Caramel obviously has the dominant yellow gene. It lightens Normal phases, and you can really see it on Amels, so why not other morphs too. I can easily see it being the cause of the Blush Anerys.

 

[nmoore601]

I will be posting all my tesseras to the club. I believe there are only 9 in our collection. Keep looking!