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Tessera Club!! Post Yours Too!!
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The_Saiyajin
Not a human...
Yes there were two ore three SK tesseras two years ago.
I cannot remember from who. I am sorry.
Joe those are sick. Love them even if I am normally not the fan of this patterns tyle but those are just amazing.
I cannot remember from who. I am sorry.
Joe those are sick. Love them even if I am normally not the fan of this patterns tyle but those are just amazing.
Hallie
SNOW!!!!
I believe Tsiriane (at least that was her name on here back then, I think she has since changed it) produced them.
The_Saiyajin
Not a human...
Yes you are right.
How does this work? No Motley or Striped but not even one with this pattern...... I think that there is no relation to the temperature of the inkubation. How does the parents looks like?
SickPyth7
Snakes
JOE.....What are you doing over there shaking the eggs before they hatch to get such an amazing look! I"M JEALOUS....I WANT ONE!!!!!
Hallie
SNOW!!!!
Sorry Drew, I thought there was someone else involved, but I couldn't remember who.
MysticExotics
(formerly NWHeather)
Me too, I much prefer the classic Tessera pattern.
The_Saiyajin
Not a human...
diamondlil
Mice! They taste so nice!
I'm totally sure you know the genetics of these, but as a casual observer they just look like aztec patterning to me. Absolutely amazingly beautiful snakes, but not classic tessera in phenotype
ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Tessera het Ghost x Hypo Bloodred het Anery PS (8375x 8419)
To answer some of the questions about these crazy patterns, we can start with the breeding. As you can see my Tessera already has some Aztec patterning. He was purchased with unknown hets.
Last year he proved to be het for Ghost. He also produced a few crazy pattern Tesseras from different lines. This year I lined him up with some interesting female Ghosts or het Ghost. This breeding was the first to hatch.
Since my Tessera proved to be het for Ghost, it matched up with a list of Tesseras that were produced the first year and sold with unknown hets. The only breeding that matched mine was Tessera x Silverqueen. Some how my Tess picked up an Aztec causing gene, OR picked up a lot of common pattern altering genes from the Silverqueen that exist in our Corn Snake gene pool.
If you believe in Bloodreds and also know what Diffused is, you may believe in things like Masque, Border-less, RedCoat, Red Factor and maybe others that may be genes in the "Bloodred Group". Genes like Masque and Border-less are all over the place in many different lines.
When I bred my Tess to Corn Snakes from a Bloodred Group such as this Hypo Bloodred het Anery PS, I get a lot of crazy patterns, instead of the original Tessera Pattern as described. Sunkissed go from an Okeetee Pattern to Crazy as soon as they are introduced to the Common Corn Snake gene pool. Why can't the crazy patterns be attributed to the same thing. Anything that is not a Normal Pattern and certainly not an Okeetee pattern, can really change the pattern on some morphs.
So do genes like Masque or Border-less make Tesseras Pattern Crazy OR is there a dominant Aztec gene in the mix. I guess the only person that can answer that question is the breeder, which in this case is KJ. If he would share what the female looked like, it may add something we don't already know.
The known pattern altering genes in this mix, in my opinion, are Masque, Border-less and PS/Diffused. If you add these genes you could think of the breeding as: Tessera het Ghost Masque Borderless x Masque Border-less Hypo Bloodred het Anery PS. Since they are all co-dominant on pattern, then fit is possibly the cause of crazy patterns on Sunkissed and Tesseras.
To answer some of the questions about these crazy patterns, we can start with the breeding. As you can see my Tessera already has some Aztec patterning. He was purchased with unknown hets.
Last year he proved to be het for Ghost. He also produced a few crazy pattern Tesseras from different lines. This year I lined him up with some interesting female Ghosts or het Ghost. This breeding was the first to hatch.
Since my Tessera proved to be het for Ghost, it matched up with a list of Tesseras that were produced the first year and sold with unknown hets. The only breeding that matched mine was Tessera x Silverqueen. Some how my Tess picked up an Aztec causing gene, OR picked up a lot of common pattern altering genes from the Silverqueen that exist in our Corn Snake gene pool.
If you believe in Bloodreds and also know what Diffused is, you may believe in things like Masque, Border-less, RedCoat, Red Factor and maybe others that may be genes in the "Bloodred Group". Genes like Masque and Border-less are all over the place in many different lines.
When I bred my Tess to Corn Snakes from a Bloodred Group such as this Hypo Bloodred het Anery PS, I get a lot of crazy patterns, instead of the original Tessera Pattern as described. Sunkissed go from an Okeetee Pattern to Crazy as soon as they are introduced to the Common Corn Snake gene pool. Why can't the crazy patterns be attributed to the same thing. Anything that is not a Normal Pattern and certainly not an Okeetee pattern, can really change the pattern on some morphs.
So do genes like Masque or Border-less make Tesseras Pattern Crazy OR is there a dominant Aztec gene in the mix. I guess the only person that can answer that question is the breeder, which in this case is KJ. If he would share what the female looked like, it may add something we don't already know.
The known pattern altering genes in this mix, in my opinion, are Masque, Border-less and PS/Diffused. If you add these genes you could think of the breeding as: Tessera het Ghost Masque Borderless x Masque Border-less Hypo Bloodred het Anery PS. Since they are all co-dominant on pattern, then fit is possibly the cause of crazy patterns on Sunkissed and Tesseras.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Tessera het Ghost x Sunkissed ph Snow Lava 8375 x 6540
I have produced this pattern for two years now. I meantioned that it looked like a Reverse Aztec Tessera once, and it is already being used by others. I don't like Reverse Okeetee for an Extreme Amel Okeetee, so any suggestions of a better name are welcome.
The female Sunkissed that produced this clutch is far from an Okeetee Sunkissed and is most likely homo Border-less if we keep going on other possible causes other than a new dominant Aztec gene from a Rich Z Silverqueen.
I have produced this pattern for two years now. I meantioned that it looked like a Reverse Aztec Tessera once, and it is already being used by others. I don't like Reverse Okeetee for an Extreme Amel Okeetee, so any suggestions of a better name are welcome.
The female Sunkissed that produced this clutch is far from an Okeetee Sunkissed and is most likely homo Border-less if we keep going on other possible causes other than a new dominant Aztec gene from a Rich Z Silverqueen.
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Tessera het Ghost x Sunkissed ph Snow Lava 8375 x 6540
Same clutch. Tess patterns simular to my male and a Masque non-Tess sibling to show Masque is also in the mix. Masque and Border-less do wonderful things to Sunkissed Patterns like the mother of this clutch, so are here genes matching up to simular genes in my Tess or is there another answer?
Same clutch. Tess patterns simular to my male and a Masque non-Tess sibling to show Masque is also in the mix. Masque and Border-less do wonderful things to Sunkissed Patterns like the mother of this clutch, so are here genes matching up to simular genes in my Tess or is there another answer?
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ecreipeoj
Striped Topaz SK SG Free
Tessera het Ghost x Pinello Ghost Bloodred
12 eggs laid and 9 Tesseras produced. I had to leave some of the Anery Tesseras out of the group photo.
What is so different about the sharp edged Aztec Tess? The pattern is just bigger on top. The other Tessera could be considered RA Tess, but with normal pattern.
This is definately the mix I was looking for when I planned this breeding. Anery Tess, Hypo Tess and Ghost Tess in the same clutch. I of course love the perfect pattern Tess and see potiential with Motley and Striped in the mix, but it seems as if other pattern altering genes can do wonderful things to Tesseras, or at least, they have me chearing!
12 eggs laid and 9 Tesseras produced. I had to leave some of the Anery Tesseras out of the group photo.
What is so different about the sharp edged Aztec Tess? The pattern is just bigger on top. The other Tessera could be considered RA Tess, but with normal pattern.
This is definately the mix I was looking for when I planned this breeding. Anery Tess, Hypo Tess and Ghost Tess in the same clutch. I of course love the perfect pattern Tess and see potiential with Motley and Striped in the mix, but it seems as if other pattern altering genes can do wonderful things to Tesseras, or at least, they have me chearing!
