What happens to a deer. (WARNING:Carnage shots)

[Hypancistrus]

The only problems is, who is the bad guy if an arrow goes astray and hits one of those laughing children?? And we know accidents happen, no if ands or buts. What happens if the children run into the area and play?? I remember going into the woods by my house all the time in an area like that.

A hunting arrow can and will go through a animal like a hot knife through butter. I have seen footage of an arrow going through a beer easily. These blades are razor sharpe.

You are correct, there are always risks, but those risks are in my opinion manageable. And I'd be willing to bet they are a lot lower than the risk of serious injury or death due to a deer hitting your car.

 

[tricksterpup]

You are correct, there are always risks, but those risks are in my opinion manageable. And I'd be willing to bet they are a lot lower than the risk of serious injury or death due to a deer hitting your car.

Yeah but imagine the mess your friend, the local DNR would be if he was to shoot a child by mistake. Imagine if it was your child.

 

[MedusaCorns]

Yeah..well..it could be a coy dog..as I have said..
but the tracks do tell...and we called a warden, I hope he knew what he was talking about..LOL...haha..anyway..and my grandfather is really into checking out the things on his prop. and there has been 4 deer for the past few months..and He said that there are many, many..coyote tracks up on the top of the hilll..we havent seen the deer in a few days..since the morning and the dogs have been going wild..and are nervous, even inside..which is weird..
But anyway..there have been foxes and the tracks are not of an animal like that..and not like that of the dogs either..
I just dont know..I am not worried about it at all...and neither is he..he waited up the other night..it never came back...
so he brought the carcass up further in the woods..so the animals can eat it...
**Honestly I was kinda excited..I wanted a Coyote skull..humph..but I am getting one from a friend who does taxidermy anyway..along with many others including Bobcat, bear, and beaver..lol..yeah..they just throw 'em away..so wicked sweet snag for me..
lol
anyway..I Live in the sticks, and was raised in the woods..I have dealt with hunting animals..and all that crap..it doesnt bother me..
If the coydog shows back up..(I am gonna call it a coydog..'cuz I can't really say if its a hybrid or full coyote)..but anyway..if it comes back in the right time..It will be Shot....end of story..thats what is going to happen.
I just wanted to show you guys the photos..I thought it was kinda cool..
I am sorry for what has happened because of it..I dont know how it got so out of hand.:shrugs:
so anywho..to those who saw it for that..thank you..
this will prolly be my last post in this thread..
(PM me for any further info, or questions..)
Thanks again for reading

~~Amanda:cheers:

It's very interesting thanks for sharing I was raised in the sticks too well, not far from you here in NH and we are going to the expo in April as well

Maybe you have one of those demonic dog like the Cu Sith that has come down from the gallows to reak havoc on your place LOL!!!!! the mystery black dog or something ****just a bit of light**** If your not sure what I mean it's an old Irish legend....

Smile I'd do the same if it was happening on my property. Worry about my pets and children and of course the wildlife around. Hope all goes well.. Our dogs use to go nuts too even if the coyotes didn't wail. I love that sound.. so eerie but scary at the same time. They sound so close but are actually on the next mountain. WICKED freaky when they do it on the woodline of our yard. Once I peeked out my front door and saw one at the bottom of my stairs. We only had like five steps so it was real close. The eyes on those things are so creepy but cool.. FREAKY COOL lol.. YEP I'm a Hick and so proud of it!!!!!!!

That would be cool to get a skull..

 

[danielle]

If I saw an arrow go through a beer I would site the shooter for wasting resources, lol. Had to sorry! I really do understand our need for wildlife and an not some heartless person who thinks it is o.k to shoot any old thing at all. However, talking about deer and coyotes is different than an endangered species on so many levels. People have to protect their habitats just as we protect animal habitats with sanctuaries and protected wildlife areas. Of course we can't make them stay where we want them to its impossible, but in areas where the population has grown to the point these animals need to invade our towns something has to be done.

 

[medusacoils]

The only problems is, who is the bad guy if an arrow goes astray and hits one of those laughing children?? And we know accidents happen, no if ands or buts. What happens if the children run into the area and play?? I remember going into the woods by my house all the time in an area like that.

A hunting arrow can and will go through a animal like a hot knife through butter. I have seen footage of an arrow going through a beer easily. These blades are razor sharpe.

A true, responsible hunter would know his target and what's behind it! If we base everything in our lives on "what ifs", then people would avoid everything. "What if I mix these chemicals and instead of finding a cure for cancer came up with a flesh eating goo?"

Unfortunately, people make mistakes, but hunting accidents are so far and few between, the odds of something like that happening is so minimal. The close range of an archer to the animal almost negates the accidental shot. Not to mention, that when she was talking about her friend, she was mentioning the gutting part of it. An arrow hit deer could run for a long time, before coming to a final rest.

 

[Hypancistrus]

Yeah but imagine the mess your friend, the local DNR would be if he was to shoot a child by mistake. Imagine if it was your child.

Imagine if it was your child that got mauled by a coyote, rabid or not....

This goes both ways......

There are drawbacks to all systems, but in my opinion, a lot of the touted "alternatives" to hunting have far too many drawbacks, or are too limited with regards to suitable areas for use to come into widespread use.

For the record, by the way, I am NOT a hunter because I don't personally think I'd be able to pull the trigger (no matter how much I enjoy the end result... venison is a fine meat) however, I will fight for the rights of hunters until my dying day because my education and experience has shown me the value of well managed hunting seasons in maintaining population balances in the absence of predators, and even in controlling populations of small predators like coyotes and foxes.

Regardless, I really must be getting to bed. Good debate, all... catch you tomorrow.

 

[mynamesrick]

Jim, that is possiable, but HIGHLY unlikely. if you're sitting in a tree stand thats say 15 feet high, shooting DOWN at an animal 15 yards away, and if it did go right through the animal(or even if it missed) the arrow would continue to go down. arrows are really light, so they lose alot of energy when they come into contact with the ground, so if it skips off the ground, it wont go far.

 

[Hypancistrus]

Unfortunately, people make mistakes, but hunting accidents are so far and few between, the odds of something like that happening is so minimal. The close range of an archer to the animal almost negates the accidental shot. Not to mention, that when she was talking about her friend, she was mentioning the gutting part of it. An arrow hit deer could run for a long time, before coming to a final rest.

The other thing about bowhunting is that you often hunt from a treestand (my friend does in his woodlot) and so you are shooting down into the ground. The chances of the arrow going where you don't want it are slim.

The chances of a deer standing around while children approach are also slim. But alas, I digress and REALLY MUST SLEEP! HA!

Stop posting people! Give me 30 seconds to log off!

 

[mynamesrick]

great minds think alike haha

 

[medusacoils]

I was reading that there you or your child would be more likely hurt playing pingpong or pool then in a hunting accident. True, accidents do happen, but in a situation regarding bow hunting, I am thinking it is far far far less likely!

 

[MedusaCorns]

I did make the point the reason deer and coyotes are so overpopulated is from lack of wolves and bear predator we humans have stupidly killed off for sport and fear; but how much do you think giving birth control to millions of animals would cost? We can't feed our poor, give them homes, and educate our nation- but we should spend billions a year to make sure our animal population remains in check? Hmm...sounds like a big waste of money to me not to mention no town or city can afford this and would look to our federal government to foot the bill. You have to look at this realistically here birth control for multiple animal species is just not possible, relocating them is basically making it someone elses problem, and these animals pose a danger to us. I feel more entitled to my safety than the safety of a deer or coyote anyday and would like to see taxpayer money help the taxpayers and not sterilize dear. Also would wide scale birth control then pose an extinction risk to these species? I never said kill every deer and coyote out there now and sterilizing them on a wide scale would deplete populations far quicker than a few hunters. People hunt for food still in this day in age as a need and I for one don't think hindering this right will do anything positive for mankind. I don't think killing an animal to kill it is o.k and I don't shoot the deer that eat my plants and poop in my yard, nor would I want anyone with a loaded gun shooting up wildlife in my neighborhood come on thats just stupid man. I do realize we share a habitat with our furry friends and they play an important role in keeping ecosystems stable, but when these numbers of friends throw off stability due to overpopulation I do believe in shooting them to restore balance. Sorry this makes no sense to you, but it's a pretty simple concept really. We live with a limited number of resources, with limited room, and allowing everything to thrive to the point of over abundence is just irresponsible. There should be and are limits on hunting specific species to protect and ensure populations, but to say hunting is just flat out wrong is negligent.

Right on but why only the poor? I'm not poor and I say bushes because the snobs here cry when the deer come in.. They don't like hunters but when they eat their prized azalea's OMG the gates of hell open up and premission to hunt on a 20 acre lot is granted... ;P

The only problems is, who is the bad guy if an arrow goes astray and hits one of those laughing children?? And we know accidents happen, no if ands or buts. What happens if the children run into the area and play?? I remember going into the woods by my house all the time in an area like that.

A hunting arrow can and will go through a animal like a hot knife through butter. I have seen footage of an arrow going through a beer easily. These blades are razor sharpe.

Whoever hunts in an area like a neighborhood, bow season or not are just to lazy to get up off the couch, Heck why don't they just open up the sliders and shoot when one runs by so they don't miss the evening news people just make me laugh.....

Oh well I know what I do so I don't really care about others.. It's just sad they give the ANTI peoples the wrong impression....

 

[mynamesrick]

yeah, another reason that is alot less likely to have an accident is because in bow hunting, you have to let the animal get really close to you. i'd say most people cant hit a deer in the vital organs from 30 yards away. most shots are taken from 10-15 yards. this makes you much more aware of your surroundings. guns are much more dangerous, because they can shoot 400+yards.

 

[tricksterpup]

I was reading that there you or your child would be more likely hurt playing pingpong or pool then in a hunting accident. True, accidents do happen, but in a situation regarding bow hunting, I am thinking it is far far far less likely!

problem is, there is no true answers. Pro Hunters will see what Pro hunters want to see. And Anti hunters will see what they want to see.

I just find it problem matic even if its in a urban area to hunt wildlife. I do not know if people are informed that a culling is going to happen on that day. but there should be. Safety should always be first and the local neighbor hoods should be informed.

The accidents are less likely but still can occur. Remember Murphey's Law??

But then again, getting hit by an arrow would be as high as getting attacked by a coyote.

 

[medusacoils]

problem is, there is no true answers. Pro Hunters will see what Pro hunters want to see. And Anti hunters will see what they want to see.

I just find it problem matic even if its in a urban area to hunt wildlife. I do not know if people are informed that a culling is going to happen on that day. but there should be. Safety should always be first and the local neighbor hoods should be informed.

The accidents are less likely but still can occur. Remember Murphey's Law??

I completely agree! And you are dead on! Safety should always be first hand and I wouldn't operate any other way. I cannot speak for any other person out there, but I could hope! I, for one, do not hunt urban areas. I prefer a nice quiet area, deep in the woods, where you could barely make out the noise pollution of the cars.

Also, I thought that bastard, Murphy, got slaughtered a long time ago! LOL!! <~(I am not literal!! See the LOL! I am kidding!)

 

[Carinata]

Now I am a hunter myself and I see nothing wrong with killing the coyote to eat but for the heck of it no way!

 

[medusacoils]

Now I am a hunter myself and I see nothing wrong with killing the coyote to eat but for the heck of it no way!

Question?? Does the coyote taste any different then say a, Labrador??

I have been hunting a long time and I don't think I would ever consider eating a coyote? I dun know why, but I wouldn't be able to get the thought of DOG out of my head? Someone else may want to give it a try, but NO THANKS!!

Wayne

 

[Carinata]

I wouldnt eat one but I know people thta have....they say it is gamey

 

[MedusaCorns]

Now I am a hunter myself and I see nothing wrong with killing the coyote to eat but for the heck of it no way!

Slush Puppy... never gone there but bet it won't bite back...

I think I'm going to call you that from now on David

~Slush Puppy~

 

[Carinata]

your going to call me slush puppy?

 

[medusacoils]

your going to call me slush puppy?

That's funny!! You got assigned a knick name from my wifey! LOL!!