What morph is this corn?

[Terry Allan Hall]

Thanks! :wavey:

 

[atmox]

i'm not good at this so don't take my answer as the right answer.

I would say hypo or normal.

 

[OkeeteeMom]

I'm sure the Morph pro's will be in here soon to give their opinions, but in the meantime you can do some comparisons of your own, here: http://iansvivarium.com/cornsnakemorphs.php

 

[Outcast]

Looks like a pretty normal to my untrained eye.

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

Only reason I wonder if she not a "normal" is the lack of black circling her rosettes...don't "normals" usually have those?

 

[atmox]

Only reason I wonder if she not a "normal" is the lack of black circling her rosettes...don't "normals" usually have those?

that's why i think hypo, but could just as well be a normal with very little black.

 

[Outcast]

What color is it then? Because I see some black on my screen around the saddles, if it is brown instead of black, she may be a hypo....I think.

 

[atmox]

I think i know how to see difference between normal and hypo! The belly checkers, if they are mostly orange with some black it's an hypo if it's mostly black with some orange it's a normal. Is this correct morph experts?

 

[josie]

My hypo has some black around her saddles, not a lot but it's there.

 

[Christen]

A belly shot and a head/eye shot would help lots and maybe another whole body picture. Normals can also have little black around there saddles as well.

 

[Floof]

Hi, Terry, welcome to the forum! How cool to see a TFO member find their way over to CS.com!!!

She looks like a normal/classic to me. It's not uncommon for Normals to have thin borders as adults, which is why it's sometimes hard to tell adult Hypo type "A"s from "just" Normals. The best way to tell, short of breeding trials with a known Hypo, is by looking at the areas of black pigment on the snake.. The areas that would normally be stark black would be the belly checkers and the borders around the saddles. Though the width of the borders isn't going to tell you much, the color of them will. If the pigment in the border lines and of the belly checks is stark black, she's just a normal. If the pigment, however, is a lighter gray/grayish-purple color, she may very well be a Hypo. Hypos also sometimes have "ruby" pupils instead of black pupils.

Referring back to the picture on your Intro post, because there's no real point in making a whole 'nother post for it, be sure to quarantine her!! You can't be sure she doesn't have some contagious illness/parasite, and you wouldn't want her to pass anything on to your other reptiles. (Or vice-versa; your established snakes may have pathogens that could make the corn snake ill, as she's not accustomed to them like the other two are.)

Basically, avoid any cross contamination between the corn and your rats... This includes washing your hands between snakes and either having a totally separate set of equipment (i.e. feeding tongs) or disinfecting the equipment between animals. If possible, housing the corn in a completely separate room is a good idea. Some, though fortunately not many, illnesses/parasites are as easily transferred as breathing the dust in the air! Plus, having your quarantined animals in a separate room can make it easier to remember to wash your hands, etc, between rooms (at least, it does for me).

 

[RavenSpirit360]

She is either a classic or a hypo.. I would need clearer pics of the snake and pictures of her belly and eye also.. She is pretty and healthy looking

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

Hi, Terry, welcome to the forum! How cool to see a TFO member find their way over to CS.com!!!

She looks like a normal/classic to me. It's not uncommon for Normals to have thin borders as adults, which is why it's sometimes hard to tell adult Hypo type "A"s from "just" Normals. The best way to tell, short of breeding trials with a known Hypo, is by looking at the areas of black pigment on the snake.. The areas that would normally be stark black would be the belly checkers and the borders around the saddles. Though the width of the borders isn't going to tell you much, the color of them will. If the pigment in the border lines and of the belly checks is stark black, she's just a normal. If the pigment, however, is a lighter gray/grayish-purple color, she may very well be a Hypo. Hypos also sometimes have "ruby" pupils instead of black pupils.

Referring back to the picture on your Intro post, because there's no real point in making a whole 'nother post for it, be sure to quarantine her!! You can't be sure she doesn't have some contagious illness/parasite, and you wouldn't want her to pass anything on to your other reptiles. (Or vice-versa; your established snakes may have pathogens that could make the corn snake ill, as she's not accustomed to them like the other two are.)

Basically, avoid any cross contamination between the corn and your rats... This includes washing your hands between snakes and either having a totally separate set of equipment (i.e. feeding tongs) or disinfecting the equipment between animals. If possible, housing the corn in a completely separate room is a good idea. Some, though fortunately not many, illnesses/parasites are as easily transferred as breathing the dust in the air! Plus, having your quarantined animals in a separate room can make it easier to remember to wash your hands, etc, between rooms (at least, it does for me).

Agreed...she was quarantined for 2 months, in another room, when I got her, and my vet has given her a clean bill of health.

And thanks to all for help in figuring out what morph she might (or might not) be...we love her as she is.

Might cross her with Elwood to see how the babies look...have had several people ask for one if the babies hatch, and Elsbeth is much too young/small to be bred...or I might look around for a male corn at the reptile show in Arlington. next month.

 

[Floof]

Ah, good! I wasn't aware you'd already gone through a QT period. Glad to hear she was cleared by a vet as healthy.

 

[tyflier]

The pupil is usually the easiest way to tell the difference between a normal and a hypo, in my opinion. A normal's pupil will be black. A hypo's pupil will be lighter, like ruby in coloration.

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

Ah, good! I wasn't aware you'd already gone through a QT period. Glad to hear she was cleared by a vet as healthy.

I got her mid-October and she was quarantined until mid-December...she was a bit skinny at first, so I was concerned about her overall health, but has been an enthusiastic eater since Day 1.

 

[WingedSweetheart]

My hypo doesn't have red pupils but she has nearly no black on her at all. Just a couple specks on her back and the darkest of her belly checks are more of a gray/purple color. So, I'd say check her belly out. What color are her checks?

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

My hypo doesn't have red pupils but she has nearly no black on her at all. Just a couple specks on her back and the darkest of her belly checks are more of a gray/purple color. So, I'd say check her belly out. What color are her checks?

More of a medium-brown, w/ gold in the checks...no black on her belly at all...

 

[Susan]

Telling the difference between some normals and some hypos can be extremely difficult. Additional photos of yours with improved true color (current photo shows much too red) as well as belly photos may help us better determine the morph of your handsome snake. But again, sometimes you must either trust the breeder when he/she said it is a normal or a hypo, or prove it yourself through breeding trials.

To test your skills, which of the following are hypos (hypo A) and which are normals. Some belly photos will follow.

 

[Terry Allan Hall]

Telling the difference between some normals and some hypos can be extremely difficult. Additional photos of yours with improved true color (current photo shows much too red) as well as belly photos may help us better determine the morph of your handsome snake. But again, sometimes you must either trust the breeder when he/she said it is a normal or a hypo, or prove it yourself through breeding trials.

To test your skills, which of the following are hypos (hypo A) and which are normals. Some belly photos will follow.

No, that pic's pretty accurate as to her true coloring...taken outside in natural light.

As for the pics, if I knew the answer, I wouldn't be asking!