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Wow, that is one expensive snake

That's BEAUTIFUL... but overpriced. Even if it IS a one in a BILLION snake, random genetic hiccup, or the beginning of a new morph... it's just greedy to ask that much. 5K at MOST for her would be reasonable, I think. I mean, it couldn't have cost much to breed/raise her, and asking anything TOO much over that is just plain out greedy.
 
She's quite lovely in person. And while I consider it too high, the asking price is understandable. Hoggie clutches are very small, and the babies can be extremely hard to get started onto mice. So not only are your odds of getting a morph from hets quite slim, but there is a chance that if you do get a morph, it might never want to switch over to eating mice.
 
I think its a beautiful snake. I've seen it on KS for a few weeks now. I don't know about you guys, but I'd be so sick if I put down the moolah for that snake and then him drop dead one day.... Someone should invent some sort of snake life insurance haha
 
Erm... most comments here are without proportion.
The implication of establishing a new morph is quite incredible financially speaking... usually, one of a kind animals sell for a whole lot more...
 
You guys should read the book The Lizard King, which discusses establishing new BP and other python morphs. $15,000 is nothing. But maybe those days are over. Excellent book.
 
Nanci said:
You guys should read the book The Lizard King, which discusses establishing new BP and other python morphs. $15,000 is nothing. But maybe those days are over. Excellent book.
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I tend to disagree, I suspect morphs will become more and more common-place, but a new gene will always mean a decent profit for the originator... even if it's not hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single animal, it'll still be allot.
 
And, Oren, it's not uncommon to see BP morphs at shows here for $15,000 or so. That doesn't mean they are selling, but it isn't shocking, to me, to see a snake offered for that. You never know who can't live without it and has the cash. I held one once, a calico BP I think. Not a pied. I was surprised the guy let me handle it. Maybe because I knew him from a previous snake purchase.
 
Nanci said:
How many Eastern Hoggy morphs are there?
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not a whole lot... you have anaconda/super, hypo, 3 types of albino, axanthic, snow, and line bred yellows and reds... which aren't really spectacular.


Nanci said:
And, Oren, it's not uncommon to see BP morphs at shows here for $15,000 or so. That doesn't mean they are selling, but it isn't shocking, to me, to see a snake offered for that. You never know who can't live without it and has the cash. I held one once, a calico BP I think. Not a pied. I was surprised the guy let me handle it. Maybe because I knew him from a previous snake purchase.
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Every new morph out there costs allot... granted, Ball pythons have been on the rise for a whole while but for those of you keeping track you will notice an extreme fall in their prices- which is even bigger than most other snake species- pastels selling for 100-200$ nowdays. It's also an issue of how hard it is to breed them... incubating ball pythons, whilst not requiring a degree, is certainly more prone to complications than most colubrids... the clutches are small, females take a long while to reach sexual maturity and you get the non-feeding complications.
popularity+time and investment= higher price.
I don't think people would have held on to such price-tags if they didn't land a sale occasionally.

Each of us has his own idea of how much he or she is willing to spend on a snake... those who wish to buy the product of several generations of selective breeding, when the initial investment by the breeder was a risk/high(buying a snake that looked extraordinary, but no one could assure him that it is indeed hereditary for instance)- will end up paying quite more than your average herp enthusiast.
Today, we have boas that we will sell for 300$, and others that we won't part with for less than 2500$... the higher you go, less people are likely to get them, but that doesn't mean that the investment and time the breeder has put into the animals should not be reflected on the price.
 
I know a guy that found the first albino Northern Mojave Rattlesnake(C.s. scutulatus). He was offered over $50,000, based on photographs. He refused.

A brand new, never before seen genetic trait can be a very lucrative discovery...
 
Kokopelli said:
not a whole lot... you have anaconda/super, hypo, 3 types of albino, axanthic, snow, and line bred yellows and reds... which aren't really spectacular.
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Those are WESTERN hog morphs. Easterns have a leucistic morph, a melanistic, orange/red morphs, and a handful of amels.
 
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