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EGGS someone give me advice

jvbernard

jvbernard

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hi all, now i have a situation on my hands, i am on holidays in oz at the moment, and my friend is house sitting for us, he has just called to tell me my female snow has just laid 10 eggs ( i think she is between 1-2 years old not sure as she was given to us, from a family friend) my friend has 2 boas but has never had to deal with eggs either, and i am away for another week. i know my snow is probably to young to breed, so i hold little chance of any hatchlings making it thru, but i was after some guidance to pass on to my friend to give these poor little mites the best possible chance. he has removed them and put them in a plastic tub and is gonna put that vermiscle stuff in there ( the moisture stuff ) can anyone else let me know what else i need to do, i also bought a hovabator a while back incase this every happened. i didnt brumate them either as they are still young.
 
Yeah....

1) Please separate your snakes.

2) Mix the vermic so that it's slightly damp. You don't want it too wet or you'll drown the eggs.

3) Cook at 80-83 degrees. Better off erring on the lower side than cooking them at 90.

4) Separate the snakes.

5) Make sure your female is getting plenty of meals---if she's as small as you say she is she probably has lost quite a bit of weight and could possible be in some real danger.

6) Separate the snakes.
 
Joejr14 said:
Yeah....

1) Please separate your snakes.

2) Mix the vermic so that it's slightly damp. You don't want it too wet or you'll drown the eggs.

3) Cook at 80-83 degrees. Better off erring on the lower side than cooking them at 90.

4) Separate the snakes.

5) Make sure your female is getting plenty of meals---if she's as small as you say she is she probably has lost quite a bit of weight and could possible be in some real danger.

6) Separate the snakes.
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I think you forgot something there... you have to separate the snakes. :grin01:

Lisa
 
Add this to the thread of why not to cohabitate.

Joe pretty much covered it, but I would be more concerned about the health of your female then the eggs.
 
Well...if you haven't already guessed most people are going to say separate your snakes (if they are together that is). I'd also agree with the fact I'd worry about your female snow more than the eggs. You can put them in a container (I use gladware with one small hole) and vermiculite and stick them on a shelf. Just make sure it's 70*F or more - if they're fertile they might take longer to hatch (like 3 months) but it will still work. As for your female she's probably lost a lot of energy and body weight. Your friend needs to make sure she has water right next to her. If he's able and she's willing, guide her head to the water even (don't do it if this stresses her). Feeding a smaller sized food item tomorrow or the next day wouldn't hurt either if she wants it. You'll want to feed her a lot for a while to help her gain back the nutrients and weight that she lost. Good luck and keep us updated.

~Katie
 
Everything the others said, plus...

Don't put any eggs in the Hovabator until it has been running for a while, and the temp has not needed any adjustment for at least 5 days. Once you are sure it is adjusted, tape down the control and don't touch it until the eggs hatch or go bad. If you try to adjust it with eggs in the incubator, you will probably over correct and cook them. Better a little too cool than too hot.
 
thanks for all the advice, i am more worried for her health than the eggs, she's been a darling since i got her, her prevoius onwer lost her for over a month, sold all her equipement and when she turned up had no where for her, and offered her top me as i already had a snow, she was probably stressed and starving, but has been great never struck at me and is so placid, and she would be sadly missed if the worse was to occur and as i said before i doubt the eggs will survive but fingers crossed they'll all be fine
 
O i forgot to mention the snakes are separated. (i was wrongly advised that they couldnt mate until they both reach 2-ish) but i was naive enough not to check on for that i am sorry!
 
Rocky Raccoon said:
Wow.....um. :shrugs: I bet you work at Petco huh?
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I really dislike comments like that.
I work at Petco. And they don't do that.
In fact, we just had a hamster come in that was pregnant. When the hamster had the babies and the babies were old enough, we adopted them out for free.
Petco doesn't just throw animals out the dumpster.
 
Brizzle said:
I really dislike comments like that.
I work at Petco. And they don't do that.
In fact, we just had a hamster come in that was pregnant. When the hamster had the babies and the babies were old enough, we adopted them out for free.
Petco doesn't just throw animals out the dumpster.
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It's not inhumane or anything. In fact, it could save the offspring from suffering at the hands of someone who isn't prepared for them.

Oops! sorry brizzle, i mistook the meaning of your first sentence.
 
Roy Munson said:
I didn't see anything wrong with Mike's advice. It's a very reasonable option if you have no idea what you're doing...
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You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Dean again.
 
snake5007 said:
It's not inhumane or anything. In fact, it could save the offspring from suffering at the hands of someone who isn't prepared for them.

Oops! sorry brizzle, i mistook the meaning of your first sentence.
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Heh, yeah. It's all good.

I just didn't like the Petco comment. Petco sucks and I plan on quitting there soon..But they don't just throw away animals.
 
well i thought the trash comment was very harsh, surely even ifs they have a slim chance ofthe eggs making it its got to be better than no chance at all (and how is me trying going to be inhumane) ok so what the odds are stacked against the eggs, and i havent had to go thru this before, but i'm sure evryone started someone and isnt that what makes this site so great that when things like this occur there are plenty of nice, more experinced people out there willing to lend a hand to people like me. thanks all they posted helpful replies
 
mike17l said:
you could always place the eggs in a brown paper bag, and place the bag in a plastic trash bag, and then place that in a dumpster.
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Mike gets my vote too.
If you have not researched and set up the incubation environment properly, you could get defects such as kinks. Are you prepared to euthanise any deformed hatchlings? Are you going to get a rack system to keep the hatchlings seperate if they do hatch, so you can get them established and feeding before you find them new homes? Have you got any way of getting them homed if they do hatch and thrive?
It's not really harsh, it's a note of realism. It could be the best thing to dispose of the eggs if you can't raise the hatchlings.
If you do get everything ready and hatch them, I wish you luck. It's just that there are so many 'unexpected breeding/egg laying' stories on here, it gets a bit difficult to be positive.
How is the female doing?
 
jvbernard said:
well i thought the trash comment was very harsh...
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Very harsh? Then you should work at being a little less hyper-sensitive. All he did was give you another option. A slim chance is NOT better than no chance if you are not able to properly incubate the eggs and care for the offspring. I'm not saying you're not capable of doing these things, but if you don't already know how it's done, then it's possible that you're not prepared for the work. Are you prepared to find and purchase the ten pinky mice you'll need to feed ten hatchlings every five days? Are you prepared for the distinct possibility that some of the hatchlings won't eat and that you'll have try crazy things to try to get them to eat? And if they won't eat, how are you going to humanely euthanize them? If they all eat, can you find homes for them? Heck, we don't even know if these eggs are fertile. Do you know how to tell if they are or are not?

And your friend with the boas will never have to worry about eggs. They bear live young. ;)
 
i have all the supplies ie. a few 47x6 heat stripes and hovabotor incubator, and braplast hatchling boxes, all i need to do is make myself the rack which wont be to hard. as for the problem feeders i had my two blizzards go thru a stage and with the help of this site, they ate.

HOMES; the place where i bought my first snow said he will take any corns of my hands as he doenst breed them himself anymore, just other more expensive snakes. and i'll easily afford the food they consume.

As for the mum (now seperated) she has since taken food so seems she's doing fine.

So if any one else wants any pot shots or nasty comments towards me feel free, but before you do think back and remember that you have probably made errors along the way too. i am adult enough to admit i did, and tried to get advice to help me sort this problem.
 
jvbernard said:
So if any one else wants any pot shots or nasty comments towards me feel free, but before you do think back and remember that you have probably made errors along the way too. i am adult enough to admit i did, and tried to get advice to help me sort this problem.
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But you're not adult enough to distinguish cautionary advice from a pot shot. You haven't received a single nasty comment in this thread (before the preceding sentence anyway). And yes, back at the dawn of time, when I first started keeping corns, I made mistakes. In fact, I made the same mistake that you've owned up to. My under-sized, under-aged, cohabitated female almost died as a result, and she never bounced back 100%. But even though I had books (no internet then) to tell me how to incubate etc., I didn't feel ready, and I discarded the eggs in much the same manner that Mike advised.

And to be honest, I STILL make mistakes with my dozens and dozens of snakes, decades after my first. :) I can tell that you're a nice person-- you don't need to be defensive.
 
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