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HELP!! Traumatic morning....

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shaqfan

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I have a corn who's almost three years old, ive had her since she was a fe weeks old. shes is my first snake. so here's the scoop. she generally eats two live mice per week. last night i went to feed he, and when i put the first one in, she missed the mouse with her first two strikes (probably irrelevant to the rest of the story, but its never happened, so i put it in). she she finnaly gets and eats mouse one. i drop the second one in a few minutes later and she strikes it wraps it up, but doesnt eat it. i assumed she wasnt hungry, so i left with the apparently dead mouse still in the tank. i came home like 10 hours later after the work, the mouse was gone, so i assumed all was good. about 6 hours later, i was sleeping and was awakened to a struggle, and i see my corn striking at the mouse over and over. so im like, wtf, where did the mouse come from. im assuming it wasnt dead, ut had just passed out, an the snake didnt eat it, and it was hiding in the rock when i got home. anyway... sht snake keeps striking at the mouse, and the mouse is biting my snake. i jumped out of bed, and immediately opened the viv and my snake came flying out, obviously distressed. i took the mouse out (and subsequently introduced it to my sister's cat... revenge was sweet). but now here are my concerns.....

1) the snake has no noticible wounds, its not bleeding or anything,should i worry about diesase from the mouse?

2) im now nervous about putting a mouse in with my snake again, becausei wouldnt want that to happen again

any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated
 
If the snake has no visible wounds I would think that it is physically ok - although probably quite stressed out. If you want to be sure, I would take out any bedding you are currently using and keep the snake on newspaper or paper towels for a week to keep an eye on her.

In the future, I would suggest pre-killing the mouse or at least stunning it before putting it in with your snake.
Most of mine eat f/t but I have one or two that will only eat live or fresh killed. The live ones I give a good "thwack" to the back of the head to stun them long enough for the snakes to grab them without fear of the mouse biting.
 
This is the classic argument against feeding live, and for those who do, to never leave a mouse unattended (even if presumed dead).

If you can't or don't want to convert over to f/t, I'd suggest stunning at the very least or pre-killing the mouse.

As to your snake, if after double and triple checking for injuries, even the slightest scratch, count yourself lucky. If you do find something, treat it with an over the counter triple antibiotic ointment and watch it carefully.
 
Boy you got lucky as I am sure you know. I agree with everyone else, at least stunn the mice prior to putting them in the feeding tank with your snake. Are you feeding your snake in a separate container or in her viv? If in her viv what is the substrate?

I am glad that your snake is ok.
 
beware the killer rabbit!

i've never seen anything before. it was convenient that whoever filmed it just happened to have a videocamera close at hand.

probably staged by snakehaters
 
Hey, well it sounds like what happened was an honest mistake. You shouldn't beat yourself up for that, and just thank your lucky stars that your snake is unscathed. I don't think you need to worry about the snake catching any sickness from the mouse... just what has it been eating all this time? :)

I think what other people wrote about stunning the mice or trying to switch to frozen is good, sound advice. Or at the very least, you know now not to ever, ever, ever, ever, ever leave a mouse with a snake alone.
 
shaqfan said:
I have a corn who's almost three years old, ive had her since she was a fe weeks old. shes is my first snake. so here's the scoop. she generally eats two live mice per week. last night i went to feed he, and when i put the first one in, she missed the mouse with her first two strikes (probably irrelevant to the rest of the story, but its never happened, so i put it in). she she finnaly gets and eats mouse one. i drop the second one in a few minutes later and she strikes it wraps it up, but doesnt eat it. i assumed she wasnt hungry, so i left with the apparently dead mouse still in the tank. i came home like 10 hours later after the work, the mouse was gone, so i assumed all was good. about 6 hours later, i was sleeping and was awakened to a struggle, and i see my corn striking at the mouse over and over. so im like, wtf, where did the mouse come from. im assuming it wasnt dead, ut had just passed out, an the snake didnt eat it, and it was hiding in the rock when i got home. anyway... sht snake keeps striking at the mouse, and the mouse is biting my snake. i jumped out of bed, and immediately opened the viv and my snake came flying out, obviously distressed. i took the mouse out (and subsequently introduced it to my sister's cat... revenge was sweet). but now here are my concerns.....

1) the snake has no noticible wounds, its not bleeding or anything,should i worry about diesase from the mouse?

2) im now nervous about putting a mouse in with my snake again, becausei wouldnt want that to happen again

any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated
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Feedback is, dont feed live. If your like me and majority of other people here you dont have time or patience to sit there and supervise every second of every feeding. I dont see a reason to feed live, and majority of corns are easy to convert.

Plus it (IMO of course) isnt right that the mouse did exactly what it shouldve done, was almost eaten, was knocked unconscious, defended itself and then you apparently handed it over to your sisters cat. Not a great night for the feeder either nor is it very humane.
 
MerlinsPop said:
This is the classic argument against feeding live, and for those who do, to never leave a mouse unattended (even if presumed dead).

If you can't or don't want to convert over to f/t, I'd suggest stunning at the very least or pre-killing the mouse.
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Couldn't have said it better!

I also agree with MrsCornsnake...it was an honest mistake. Keep us posted hopefully ur snake is doing better now.
 
Definitely sounds like an honest mistake. This is all a part of learning.
I bet you will never leave a live mouse unattended with your snake again.
My corns all eat medium sized rats and all eat live, I stun the rats and do not stop watching until I see the snake swallowing the prey item.

Ciao
 
IF there are any wonds on the snake i would advise to put something on it. Get some iodine from over the counter, the brand name is vetadine i think.
 
poor snake.
poor mouse.
bad you.

The snake did what it could to survive.
So did that poor mouse, that can feel pain and fear just like any other creature.
Shame on you for taking your revenge with the sister's cat. It wasn't the mouse's fault, it was YOURS!

Bottom line : Your snake suffered stress BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS. Then, you happily allowed a small injured frightened creature to be tortured to death, for the crime of trying to stay alive. It appears someone failed to teach you both common sense, and compassion. How very sad for all involved.
 
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It was an honest mistake but yes I agree with starsevol, it was pretty cruel to torture the mouse with your sisters cat. I am not judging you, it just makes me a bit sad :(
 
starsevol said:
poor snake.
poor mouse.
bad you.

The snake did what it could to survive.
So did that poor mouse, that can feel pain and fear just like any other creature.
Shame on you for taking your revenge with the sister's cat. It wasn't the mouse's fault, it was YOURS!

Bottom line : Your snake suffered stress BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS. Then, you happily allowed a small injured frightened creature to be tortured to death, for the crime of trying to stay alive. It appears someone failed to teach you both common sense, and compassion. How very sad for all involved.
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Get over yourself, the cat just ate the mouse that was going to get fed to the snake anyways. Do you eat meat? shame on you.
 
zion said:
Get over yourself, the cat just ate the mouse that was going to get fed to the snake anyways. Do you eat meat? shame on you.
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I think no-one here (keeping obligate carnivore pets), whether they eat meat or not, objects to mice as feeders. What is the sticking point is unnecessary suffering to the mouse, as well as the snake getting injured
 
zion said:
Get over yourself, the cat just ate the mouse that was going to get fed to the snake anyways. Do you eat meat? shame on you.
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Nope, the mouse was unecessarily TORTURED to death for trying to stay alive to satisfy some sadist's idea of revenge.
Shame on ANYONE who condones the UNECESSASARY suffering of ANY creature. And shame on YOU.

There is a special place in you-know-where for people who think nothing of cruelty. The true measure of a man is how he treats those under him, including animals.
 
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