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His first live one!

I agree Beth, but the OP has two snakes if you read other posts and it appears in one pic this snake has eaten prekilled, however fed on substrate.
 
susang said:
I agree Beth, but the OP has two snakes if you read other posts and it appears in one pic this snake has eaten prekilled, however fed on substrate.
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Well, he does not care if his snake contracts parasites or loses an eye, so why should he care if it ingests bedding?
Being a good pet owner is hardly a priority for this one....
 
It's kind of sad that a guy who just gets a snake, who is trying different options, and is still learning to care for his snake, gets ridiculed for things he is trying to correct. I want to be a good pet owner. First things first, no one told me not to feed him in his cage, and it only happened once. After looking at many websites, I corrected my error, and now have a feeding tank. Second, I'm in the US military, and I do not get a thrill out of killing a mouse. If I wanted to kill things, I would kill bigger things then a mouse. Lyion had good feedback and I changed my mind to feeding him frozen mice. This is a new thing for me, so Nanci and everyone else maybe positive feedback helps more then chastising someone would be more help. I thought a forum was a discussion and a learning tool for certain information, but someone puts up the "wrong" thing, and everyone seems to think that this person is evil because he is uneducated in the care for cornsnakes. I want to learn. I want to be a great owner. I think I could learn from certain people on this forum, but as for the rest of you, keep your comments about my nether regions and sexuality out of a bad decision.
 
Shiari said:
Yes it is.

Pros for F/T:
Cheaper, especially if you have multiple snakes.
Always able to have correct prey size on hand.
No potential for injury to snake if left in bin unsupervised.
No potential for injury to snake if it 'misses' or coils incorrectly.
Significantly less risk as a source for parasites.

Cons:
Other people in household may not like having numerous rodents in the freezer.

Pros for feeding P/K:
No potential for injury to snake if left in bin unsupervised.
No potential for injury to snake if it 'misses' or coils incorrectly.
Can be frozen if snake is uninterested, for later use.

Cons:
Can get expensive if you have multiple snakes and don't breed your own.
Stinky mouse smell if you do breed your own.
May not have correct prey size.

Pros for feeding live:
None.

Cons:
Potential for injury or death to snake if left in bin unsupervised.
Potential for injury or death to snake if it misses or coils incorrectly.
Potential for transmissible parasites, resulting in vet bills.
Housing for mouse in case snake is 'uninterested' unless breeding your own.
May not have correct prey size.
Expensive, especially for multiple snakes, unless breeding your own.


Feeding live should be a last resort, "my snake absolutely won't eat anything else" situation.

And for the emotional part, while Legion there is incapable of empathy for mice, do please keep in mind that this is a living feeling creature you are feeding to your snake. It can feel terror and pain. If it is going to die anyway, shouldn't that death be painless and free from fear?
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After Megan posted THIS ^^^^^^^^
you continued on as though you did not care one little bit.

Stated that you wanted to feed live because it was your choice.

How exactly is that supposed to be interpreted?
 
Wow.... most military people I know do not enjoy killing anything, mouse or bigger. It is usually the young ones just joining the service who are gung ho about killing and blowing up stuff. After all if you dont like killing why feed live in the first place? I find you contradict yourself in that last statement. F/t is so readily available even from big chained pet stores.

Good references

Kathy and Bill Love's book Corn Snakes: The Comprehensive Owner's Guide..
Don Soderberg's book Corn Snakes in Captivity

I made my son read Don's book for a whole month before I allowed him to get a corn snake. I, myself, have been researching owning different snakes for years. I dont know everything. I am still a novice. But I do know feeding live is disgusting when you can feed them already killed mice (who are killed humanly). This I knew long before I ever owned my first snake.
 
I might not be in the military but I to can go out and kill bigger things and do. I am a avid hunter but the first thing you learn when you begin hunting is never allow the animal you hunt to suffer. One shot, one kill rule. And if you do just injure, you bet your butt you are going to track down that animal and make sure you put it down and end its suffering. So again I do not see your logic
 
beautifullywild77 said:
I might not be in the military but I to can go out and kill bigger things and do. I am a avid hunter but the first thing you learn when you begin hunting is never allow the animal you hunt to suffer. One shot, one kill rule. And if you do just injure, you bet your butt you are going to track down that animal and make sure you put it down and end its suffering. So again I do not see your logic
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You give hunters a good name, ^^.
 
Honestly, I see no need to feed live, when in my opinion, it is just as fascinating to watch them eat frozen thawed. But, if the snake won't eat frozen, than it's fine...til you get them to switch.
Glad you changed your mind to switch to frozen thawed, good decision.
 
I told you the reasons it is dangerous, or potentially so, for your snake. I just want to know why you want to do it. Just curious, that's all.
 
Beautifullywild77, I see your husband is in the air force, and your stationed at kafb, I grew up in Albuquerque. I've been hunting near Angel Fire, Taos, and Eagle Nest. Everyone I grew up with went hunting for deer and elk, most air force guys I know don't hunt. In Idaho, where I am currently at, everyone up here hunts. As for being the "young one" who enjoys blowing stuff up, I am not. I am 31 and I've been in going on 8 years. I do believe in one shot, one kill rule, and as I expressed in my previous post, I have learned that maybe my decision to feed live instead of frozen, is not in the best interest of my animal. But I do have multiple choices, so which ever I choose is mine to make.
 
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