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His first live one!

guagerage said:
i'm the michael vick of cornsnakes for feeding him a live mouse.
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Several remaining people are not accusing you of anything. However, this particular snake is poor at eating live.

A snake should go for a head strike and coil on contact. This snake does a good job here @ 1:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmUP_3LQbGg . Barry may start coiling with larger mice but in the mean time practice extreme caution.
 
We, as human beings, are better than that and should actively work to prevent such unless there is no other way.
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Sounds like I am morally a Neanderthal then.
Here's my pro/con list:

F/T:

Pros: Safe and humane!
Cons: Artificial!

Live:

Pros: Beautiful to watch! Psychosexual thrill!
Cons: THE MOUSE MIGHT WIN
 
I personally have never taken a video or picture of my snakes eating. I find no entertainment value in it at. I feed f/t but have fed live on occasion. I have a corn snake like Barry that doesnt have the feeding response needed. He eats it buttend or tries to go for it sideways. He just never got it.

No Michael Vick... but I would take what others are saying and think about it. Research more. I personaly just would never want to risk my snakes even if the risks are far and few between.
 
He took a video to show us how he ate and to see if he did anything wrong, not for entertainment.

beautifullywild77 said:
I personally have never taken a video or picture of my snakes eating. I find no entertainment value in it at. I feed f/t but have fed live on occasion. I have a corn snake like Barry that doesnt have the feeding response needed. He eats it buttend or tries to go for it sideways. He just never got it.

No Michael Vick... but I would take what others are saying and think about it. Research more. I personaly just would never want to risk my snakes even if the risks are far and few between.
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7legion77 said:
Sounds like I am morally a Neanderthal then.
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Nope. Neanderthal were human as well.


7legion77 said:
Here's my pro/con list:
F/T:

Pros: Safe and humane!
Cons: Artificial!

Live:

Pros: Beautiful to watch! Psychosexual thrill!
Cons: THE MOUSE MIGHT WIN
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You complain about 'artificial' feedings while your snakes live in wood, glass, or plastic boxes? There is not enough facepalm for this.

Cons: Your snake could die. But that's okay, because you find it exciting. Also, what happened to the 'reasoned' arguments, rather than emotional appeals?
 
you know, all my female corns strike at the head and coil to "kill" thier F/T prey. They even keep the coil long enough to kill the prey were it not already dead!!

My males (without exception, even the one who was fed live before coming home to me) are lazy eaters, they don't strike, they don't coil, they just slither up and grab the nearest end and start pulling it down!!
 
Well then. Legion just showed the bad side of live feeders. The issue is, many people will think you are like him. The fact that he gets a sexual thrill from this is disgusting. There are responsible live feeders, and you guage are trying your best for your snake to get a good life out of this. But Legion gives us snake fans a bad name, and people got upset and angry at you because they thought you got that thrill from it.
 
I have noticed males to be bad feeders compared to females as well, Farm. Perhaps because females try to bulk up for reproducing?
 
guagerage said:
you are right if he is doing it wrong people need to see it so i can go back to f/t instead of feeding him live!
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Honestly? Your snake is rubbish at strike feeding and totally inefficient at killing. Live mice aren't better than thawed mice for feeding in any way, they carry parasites that are killed by freezing that can infect your snake and when they are big enough to defend themselves they can inflict serious injuries. So why do you want to feed live mice rather than F/T?
 
diamondlil said:
Honestly? Your snake is rubbish at strike feeding and totally inefficient at killing. Live mice aren't better than thawed mice for feeding in any way, they carry parasites that are killed by freezing that can infect your snake and when they are big enough to defend themselves they can inflict serious injuries. So why do you want to feed live mice rather than F/T?
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Calm down Diamond. I think he understands.
 
Lyion said:
I have noticed males to be bad feeders compared to females as well, Farm. Perhaps because females try to bulk up for reproducing?
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quite possible.

I also find one of my males refuses most meals during the breeding season. my other male will eat whatever I give him, whenever I give it to him!!! But you can tell he's that way, he is 6 yrs old and well over 4' and well over 600g.
 
Farmgirl said:
quite possible.

I also find one of my males refuses most meals during the breeding season. my other male will eat whatever I give him, whenever I give it to him!!! But you can tell he's that way, he is 6 yrs old and well over 4' and well over 600g.
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Wow! A big boy! Do you have any pics?
 
Lyion said:
Calm down Diamond. I think he understands.
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I'm totally calm. I've fed live when I've had to, despite screaming opposition on UK reptile forums and the general mistaken belief that it's totally illegal here. But it was to rehab non-feeders, which is why I'm asking why the OP wants to do it. I found it a pain in the backside, as you can't actually buy live feeder mice here, you have to grow your own
 
I have to get some more. My hard drive recently died and I had not backed up any of my pics to a removable device. So I have "redo" all my pics of all my beauties!! *sigh*

I will get you some pics of Pirwa (my big boy) ASAP!!
 
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