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Hypancistrus

Hypancistrus

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http://www.duggarfamily.com/index.html

Number 19... on the way!!

How do they even manage to keep the baby inside of her any more? Does she have to lay on her back with her legs up in the air for 9 months?

Incidentally, check out the FAQ's if you want a real laugh...

Michelle "I knew then that God had a purpose for me."

Yes... to become a brood mare.
 
Hmmmmm... I'm quite familiar with the family as my wife watches the show from time to time.

I'm confused, Lauren. The Duggar family DOES take care of their children and they all appear to be well raised and they're not asking for hand-outs. If having children is her "calling in life" then why is she the subject of your ridicule?

Not arguing or anything, but just curious. I'd be more concerned for families having 2 kids consistently on welfare than one woman having 19 children who are happy, well raised and taken care of.
 
I'm not impressed with their barrack style care... unlike snakes, kids require individual attention.

Regardless, she makes me want to vomit. :puke01:
 
They are a big family, and understandably it isn't for everyone. On the other hand, how is this so wrong of a thing to do. They seem to have a sibling companionship that is very rare in families, have learned responsibility, hard work, and living by modest means, their parents seem to love them all, and do everything in their power to be good parents... this to me is something that should be coveted and not ridiculed (not pointing fingers or arguing).

I think that people overrate that children need individual attention. Of course they do, but only to an extent, and I think this family is the extent. Usually children in single child homes end up being the spoiled ones, the ones that don't know how to share, learn how to treat others through sibling relationships. Of course this is not all single child households, but enough where I don't feel strongly in saying that children who get the most parental attention end up better off.
 
Michael823 said:
I don't feel strongly in saying that children who get the most parental attention end up better off.
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Neither do I. SOME parental attention, in a one-on-one fashion would be nice though.

I'm not condemning them. But they gross me out, and I'm honest enough to say it. There are lots of things I find repulsive but don't outright condemn.
 
Emily1188 said:
Neither do I. SOME parental attention, in a one-on-one fashion would be nice though.

I'm not condemning them. But they gross me out, and I'm honest enough to say it. There are lots of things I find repulsive but don't outright condemn.
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I wasn't posting as a direct response to you, just the overall feeling towards the family. I agree that children certainly need some individual attention, but I just don't see how the family can't provide that. I really don't know enough to say anything for certain, but from the outside, they look like a happy family, and a family that teaches the right principles.
I'm just making my point about single child households, as I know many single children who are spoiled, and so on. I just think too much attention can turn into too much entitlement, and that usually leads to people with problems. Obviously not all, but certainly some of them do.
 
Michael823 said:
I wasn't posting as a direct response to you, just the overall feeling towards the family.
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I know. I didn't take it as such.

Michael823 said:
I agree that children certainly need some individual attention, but I just don't see how the family can't provide that. I really don't know enough to say anything for certain, but from the outside, they look like a happy family, and a family that teaches the right principles.
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They have to be on a rotation schedule to have half an hour alone with their own mother.

Michael823 said:
I'm just making my point about single child households, as I know many single children who are spoiled, and so on. I just think too much attention can turn into too much entitlement, and that usually leads to people with problems. Obviously not all, but certainly some of them do.
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I agree. I didn't know we were discussing single-child households?
 
There are several things about this "family" that make me want to :puke01:

First... the way it is clear that Mr. Jim Bob is considered the "leader" of his wife... says so multiple times in the FAQ's. Perhaps it is my inner feminist lesbian shining through, but hearing a man call himself the "leader" of his woman is disgusting to me... cave-man like.

Second... fundamentalist, conservative Christians... they corrupt the religion and its ideals towards hate and bigotry. Out of one side of their mouth they say "love everyone," but this could not be farther from the truth... (case in point, again in the FAQ's, he was taught at a young age that a Christian should not date non-Christians, and he passed that on to her and most likely their kids, too)

Third... the fact that they say they "love children" and children are "God's blessings."

Sorry for this... but if you love children that much and are blessed enough to be able to care for 19 of them financially... why not adopt?? There are hundreds of thousands of kids across this Nation and the world who do not have homes or families to call their own... many of them will spend 18 years in foster care without a permanent placement and then be cut off when they come of age.

What about those kids?? Actually do something GOOD for this world instead of just lip service....

Fourth... they exploit their children via webpages, media, fundraising... this is in fact how they pay for their 19 children! Some may feel this is an acceptable way to raise kids... I for one do not. :shrugs:

Whatever... they pay their own bills. If people are dumb enough to donate money to such situations, who am I to complain?
 
Hypancistrus said:
There are several things about this "family" that make me want to :puke01:

First... the way it is clear that Mr. Jim Bob is considered the "leader" of his wife... says so multiple times in the FAQ's. Perhaps it is my inner feminist lesbian shining through, but hearing a man call himself the "leader" of his woman is disgusting to me... cave-man like.

Second... fundamentalist, conservative Christians... they corrupt the religion and its ideals towards hate and bigotry. Out of one side of their mouth they say "love everyone," but this could not be farther from the truth... (case in point, again in the FAQ's, he was taught at a young age that a Christian should not date non-Christians, and he passed that on to her and most likely their kids, too)

Third... the fact that they say they "love children" and children are "God's blessings."

Sorry for this... but if you love children that much and are blessed enough to be able to care for 19 of them financially... why not adopt?? There are hundreds of thousands of kids across this Nation and the world who do not have homes or families to call their own... many of them will spend 18 years in foster care without a permanent placement and then be cut off when they come of age.

What about those kids?? Actually do something GOOD for this world instead of just lip service....

Fourth... they exploit their children via webpages, media, fundraising... this is in fact how they pay for their 19 children! Some may feel this is an acceptable way to raise kids... I for one do not. :shrugs:

Whatever... they pay their own bills. If people are dumb enough to donate money to such situations, who am I to complain?
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What she said...
 
Lauren very tactfully and comprehensively covered things that I could have...very, very, very....offensively summed up in one word.
Which she certainly knows.

We rainbow/lavender people have our own unsavory gutter slang for those on the other side of the fence. And I think we demonstrate great tact and restraint by not yelling those words out in malls, on college campuses, in school-yards, at football stadiums, concerts, drive-thru's, etc.
:roflmao:
 
There is a quote on her FAQs that basically says something like she found her place god planned for her...and all I could think of was "Yeah,as a broodmare". *hangs head in shame as I laugh*
 
vetusvates said:
Lauren very tactfully and comprehensively covered things that I could have...very, very, very....offensively summed up in one word.
Which she certainly knows.

We rainbow/lavender people have our own unsavory gutter slang for those on the other side of the fence. And I think we demonstrate great tact and restraint by not yelling those words out in malls, on college campuses, in school-yards, at football stadiums, concerts, drive-thru's, etc.
:roflmao:
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That one single word would have quite a few other words strung along in front of it if it were me speaking.
 
lol. the duggars. thats all i gotta say.

we always tell my cousin when hes being bad, if you dont start behaving daddies gonna ship you off to live with the duggars.

i have to say though, their daughters are actually pretty girls. just not my style of living.
 
I can't imagine constantly letting the media into my life. With 19 kids, you know the parents never get any privacy AT ALL and then six billion people want to see what's up with them too? Yeeks. I'll stick to snakes, thanks. :)
 
Here's my thing... It seems to me that the ones casting stones here are also the ones who don't want stones cast in their direction. I'm not attacking or anything, but that's what it seems to me.

I CAN understand the "exploitation of children" argument. I cannot, however, understand the attack on their beliefs. As far as I know, I have not heard the Duggars say anything derogatory towards gays or lesbians. Yet here, we have gays and lesbians (which is FINE with me - to each their own) as well as others, denigrating them as a family and their belief system.

Can you imagine IF they had said anything derogatory of someone of another race or creed or lifestyle? There would be a thread a million posts long. BUT, it seems "okay" to attack the other way?

I dunno... but the phrase "those who live in glass houses..." comes to mind.

Live and let live is what I try to remember every time I post... I guess I'm the only one who thinks that way?
 
Hypancistrus said:
There are several things about this "family" that make me want to :puke01:

First... the way it is clear that Mr. Jim Bob is considered the "leader" of his wife... says so multiple times in the FAQ's. Perhaps it is my inner feminist lesbian shining through, but hearing a man call himself the "leader" of his woman is disgusting to me... cave-man like.

Second... fundamentalist, conservative Christians... they corrupt the religion and its ideals towards hate and bigotry. Out of one side of their mouth they say "love everyone," but this could not be farther from the truth... (case in point, again in the FAQ's, he was taught at a young age that a Christian should not date non-Christians, and he passed that on to her and most likely their kids, too)

Third... the fact that they say they "love children" and children are "God's blessings."

Sorry for this... but if you love children that much and are blessed enough to be able to care for 19 of them financially... why not adopt?? There are hundreds of thousands of kids across this Nation and the world who do not have homes or families to call their own... many of them will spend 18 years in foster care without a permanent placement and then be cut off when they come of age.

What about those kids?? Actually do something GOOD for this world instead of just lip service....

Fourth... they exploit their children via webpages, media, fundraising... this is in fact how they pay for their 19 children! Some may feel this is an acceptable way to raise kids... I for one do not. :shrugs:

Whatever... they pay their own bills. If people are dumb enough to donate money to such situations, who am I to complain?
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I take back what I said :)! I've only seen a portion of an episode, so I was speaking out of ignorance I guess. I just saw how the children treated each other, and I figured that it was a reflection of "good" parenting.
I had no idea about the "leader of his wife" thing, that is disturbing. I might have a little inner feminist lesbian too (please take that lightheartedly), because I find that grotesque. Kind of off topic, but there's this "husband for a day" business around here that does odd jobs, and my inner feminist gets ticked off by that too. Like somehow a woman needs a man/husband in order to do the fix it jobs around the house.
The "god's blessings" thing is garbage too (no offense). I think people who have multiple children for god's sake are highly oblivious. Are the starving children of the world not "god's children", so why not help them for god's sake. To think that god will reward you for having 2 dozen children is crazy, why would he/she not be just as happy with having one child that does work to help this crooked world.
 
The_Thunderer said:
I cannot, however, understand the attack on their beliefs. As far as I know, I have not heard the Duggars say anything derogatory towards gays or lesbians. Yet here, we have gays and lesbians (which is FINE with me - to each their own) as well as others, denigrating them as a family and their belief system.
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Well you're right... they don't come right out on their website and say that gay people are sinful and argue against our human rights.

However...

They do state numerous times that they believe that we should live "based on the Bible," and if I were a betting person, I'd definitely bet that the Duggars would be among the first to "Vote Yes For Proposition 8" and other such things. This is a guess based on my experience with others of similar belief systems.

It's just my personal opinion. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe, but keep your belief system out of my life. Again... no hard evidence on their website, just a hunch on my part.

Incidentally... with 19 children... how do they find time to MAKE more babies?!??!?
 
Hypancistrus said:
Well you're right... they don't come right out on their website and say that gay people are sinful and argue against our human rights.

However...

They do state numerous times that they believe that we should live "based on the Bible," and if I were a betting person, I'd definitely bet that the Duggars would be among the first to "Vote Yes For Proposition 8" and other such things.

It's just my personal opinion.

Incidentally... with 19 children... how do they find time to MAKE more babies?!??!?
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Hmmmmm... Well, I'm a Bible believing person myself. BUT, I refuse to be pigeon-holed like I'm sure others would not want to be pigeon-holed. Just because a person believes in The Bible, it doesn't mean that it should automatically be assumed that they would vote a certain way - or not, just as one should assume that since I'm a man, I want to father children (which I do and have done) or that since you're a woman, you want to have oodles of children.

LOL. I DO wonder where they have the time!!! :)

EDIT for Danielle - RABBITS!
 
Fred, there's a difference between believing in the bible, and taking it to the extent they seem to. Having been on their website, almost every single thing they do seems to be dictated by a bible quote. It almost makes me wonder if they still make animal sacrifices?
 
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