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Rumor I heard about Tesseras (sp?)

diamondlil said:
But the good diffusion on the better granites and pewters doesn't involve stripe or motley. Any ideas on why the caramel-based bloods are different?
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I know this is off topic but the topic was dead anyway but the since the caramel gene is so "strong" for lack of a better term, it is going to take longer to get good diffusion. This year I am breeding a rosy blood het butter to a sulfur to see if that helps and I know of a few others that have bred pied sided to sulfer (Rob comes to mind).
John
 
Shiari said:
Related, I have seen a few granites that I would have thought to simply be aneries had their bellies not been clear. It's still quite possible to find barely diffused examples of other morphs.
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Yep, I've got one of those! I'm hoping that by breeding her to my diffused male from Lexcorns I'll see better difusion from her offspring.
 

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zorro said:
I know this is off topic but the topic was dead anyway but the since the caramel gene is so "strong" for lack of a better term, it is going to take longer to get good diffusion. This year I am breeding a rosy blood het butter to a sulfur to see if that helps and I know of a few others that have bred pied sided to sulfer (Rob comes to mind).
John
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If the theories about the better diffusion in pied lines is right, then I'd love to see those results! In fact I'd love to see your results from sulphur x rosy.
But....................isn't rosy sometimes regarded as a sub-species of corn:sidestep:
 
But....................isn't rosy sometimes regarded as a sub-species of corn
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Depends on the context ;) A 'RosyBlood' may be a 'Kastanie blood' whereas a 'Rosy Blood' may be a 'Rosy' Bloodred...
 
torsten said:
Depends on the context ;) A 'RosyBlood' may be a 'Kastanie blood' whereas a 'Rosy Blood' may be a 'Rosy' Bloodred...
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Haha! But, isn't the Kastanie from rosy lines? With the lovely chestnut colours coming through on my uppers keys babies and their unicolour tummies, I don't care where in their family tree they got their looks from!
Actually I do care, but because I find the history and genetics interesting. Upper Keys, wild miamis, wild okeetees all do have some unique characteristics, possibly from inbreeding within distinct locality groups. Then we've caught 'em, mixed 'em up and look at all the beautiful corns we've got!
 
torsten said:
Depends on the context ;) A 'RosyBlood' may be a 'Kastanie blood' whereas a 'Rosy Blood' may be a 'Rosy' Bloodred...
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I think I'll start a new thread in the photo gallery for diffused caramel pics or a thread on stripe and motley affects on diffusion.
I'lll see you over there.
John
 
Haha! But, isn't the Kastanie from rosy lines?
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Kastanie was found in germany and not from 'rosy' lines I believe. Don's 'RosyBloods' may carry a gene which looks similar to kastanie (to be proven out if it's the same this year) which causes their look, hence when he bred RosyBlood and normal bloods together he just produced normal bloods.
 
torsten said:
Kastanie was found in germany and not from 'rosy' lines I believe. Don's 'RosyBloods' may carry a gene which looks similar to kastanie (to be proven out if it's the same this year) which causes their look, hence when he bred RosyBlood and normal bloods together he just produced normal bloods.
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Ah, my bad. I think I got 'kastanie' and 'rosy' already proven out from the same lines in my head! I didn't know Rosyblood x blood made normal bloods. Thanks.
(But then I also had kastanie and buff mixed up in my head at one point)
 
I didn't know Rosyblood x blood made normal bloods. Thanks.
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I believe that Don had done that breeding before he realised that there was a seperate gene at work.
 
diamondlil said:
Ah, my bad. I think I got 'kastanie' and 'rosy' already proven out from the same lines in my head! I didn't know Rosyblood x blood made normal bloods. Thanks.
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The bloods they make can look alot like Rosy bloods, don't have time to get a new pic but this guy in with my sulfur was the product of Rob's Rosy bloodred to his sulfur. To me he looks alot like a rosy bloodred.
John
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The bloods they make can look alot like Rosy bloods, don't have time to get a new pic but this guy in with my sulfur was the product of Rob's Rosy bloodred to his sulfur. To me he looks alot like a rosy bloodred.
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I though that the blood he had produced from RosyBlood X Blood produced fairly 'standard' looking bloods... Evidently I'm not entirely correct on that!
I think that at one point Don wasn't sure that all of his Rosybloods carried the additional gene and that some may be 'just' 'rosy' bloodreds so perhaps that is why some of the offspring from the rosyblood lines have a similar look in the F1...or perhaps the 'Rosy' part is infulancing it aswell as the possible additional gene...
 
I really work from the standpoint that I have virtually no chance that my corns are absolutely pure. Whether from integades in their ancestry or deliberate crossing in their past (like using emori to beef up hatchlings). I prefer certain looks that rule out obvious creamsicles and rootbeers from my collection or breeding plans, I want the looks from the higher percentage of corn blood. (edited after seeing that pic and reading on, thanks John! If the highly diffused lines have everglades or rosy influence behind them, or are simply descended from a particular locale of corn, I don't mind at all what's in their family tree, except as background info!)
 
zorro said:
The bloods they make can look alot like Rosy bloods, don't have time to get a new pic but this guy in with my sulfur was the product of Rob's Rosy bloodred to his sulfur. To me he looks alot like a rosy bloodred.
John
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Oh I like the sound of that project! So it's using the rosy influence to enhance the diffusion?
 
zorro said:
I think I'll start a new thread in the photo gallery for diffused caramel pics or a thread on stripe and motley affects on diffusion.
I'lll see you over there.
John
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I'm still waiting for your new thread!!! :S... buddy!!!!!!
Don't make me come back here!!!!
 
torsten said:
I though that the blood he had produced from RosyBlood X Blood produced fairly 'standard' looking bloods... Evidently I'm not entirely correct on that!
I think that at one point Don wasn't sure that all of his Rosybloods carried the additional gene and that some may be 'just' 'rosy' bloodreds so perhaps that is why some of the offspring from the rosyblood lines have a similar look in the F1...or perhaps the 'Rosy' part is infulancing it aswell as the possible additional gene...
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Rob told me that his brothers and sisters don't all look like him so I don't know?
Don had told me that some of the off spring of rosy bloodsXbloods where not good looking but how could that be, I like them all.
John
 
If the offspring are varied then that would lend credibility to the 'rosy' influence I suppose...
 
Hey torsten!!! I send you an email..did you get buddy.....Ohh wait I'm I off topic here??? Lol
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Hey! No, I haven't recieved it yet...
Offtopic!? I don't think this thread has the ability to go 'offtopic' anymore! :L

Edit: I have recieved it now!
Edit 2: And now replied ;)
 
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