starwarsdad
Ye Olde Curmudgeon
Good riddance.
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The Reputation System is gone.
- Thread starter Rich Z
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Serpwidgets
New member
I think if there were a nominal one-time fee for membership, say $5-$10, it would probably eliminate a lot of the trolls who just keep creating new accounts every time they get mad because someone disagreed with them and they want to start a flame war.
For example, John Pilling (cornman1979) has several accounts here. Seems like he creates a new one whenever he goes on a rampage of hatred, which is at about the same time every month. One of those accounts he is still actively posting with, even today, even though he thinks nobody here knows who he is.
For example, John Pilling (cornman1979) has several accounts here. Seems like he creates a new one whenever he goes on a rampage of hatred, which is at about the same time every month. One of those accounts he is still actively posting with, even today, even though he thinks nobody here knows who he is.
JTGoff69
New member
While I have to say I'm not that sorry to see the rep points go (except that it WAS valuable for newbies), I do have to say that I'm upset about the general mood and tone of the forum for the last week. Everyone seems to be lashing out at each other. I used to love coming on and reading everyone's posts and usually got a good laugh. Lately, it does nothing but make me sad. I'm going to stay away for a week or so, and hopefully the fun, caring, and friendship will find it's way back in. :shrugs:
Serpwidgets said:
Jeeze Louise! That's all I would need to do. I'm allready getting lots of flak from some people for my deciding to charge for some functions on FaunaClassifieds. This would just be the icing to the cake, for sure. I would have to have OVERWHELMING evidence that most of the people here would want that to happen. I mean REALLY overwhelming..........
Drizzt80
Dakota Corns
Personally disappointed to see that the rep points disappeared as I logged on this evening. I personally appreciated the pats on the back for some of the things I posted over the past couple of months, and truly felt that it was, or should be, a help to honest newbies looking for accurate information. Is there a way to not have the rep points linked to the number of posts, and only feed back given by other members? Is there a way to have the feedback visible to other members when looking at their user info? I think it could be a valuable system if we brainstorm solutions (That is if we thought it was actually valuable) instead of complain about the situation that brought this about . . .
As for the attitude around here, I've personally missed it completely, didn't know things were heating up until I read about the rep points and cornman fiasco's. But then I treat the posts like I treat my feeders and my snakes, I cull out the ones that I don't want to keep. I use the 'New Posts' function, read through the list, and open the threads that seem interesting to me personally or ones that I may be able to add to or help in. I ignore the ones that look like they may be senseless, uninteresting, or just not worth my time currently. Then I hit quicklinks and Mark Forums Read. Next time I come back, I only get the stuff that's been posted lately. I might be missing some good stuff, seems like I already have :crazy02: , but on the other hand, I also don't have the time to read each and every post that goes up every day.
Just my two cents!
D80
JTGoff69 said:
As for the attitude around here, I've personally missed it completely, didn't know things were heating up until I read about the rep points and cornman fiasco's. But then I treat the posts like I treat my feeders and my snakes, I cull out the ones that I don't want to keep. I use the 'New Posts' function, read through the list, and open the threads that seem interesting to me personally or ones that I may be able to add to or help in. I ignore the ones that look like they may be senseless, uninteresting, or just not worth my time currently. Then I hit quicklinks and Mark Forums Read. Next time I come back, I only get the stuff that's been posted lately. I might be missing some good stuff, seems like I already have :crazy02: , but on the other hand, I also don't have the time to read each and every post that goes up every day.
Just my two cents!
D80
I can set it up so that everyone can ONLY post positive reputation points, if you want. Puts it in a manner of "if you can't say something nice about someone's posts, don't say anything at all". The reputation system was not deleted, it was just removed from view and usage. But the cretins using it as a spiteful weapon that I had to clean up afterwards got tiresome.
thelyonsking
honest, I'll only get 1
Just an idea- Is it possible that only contributors could give feedback? That would allow anyone to post, but only those who are devoted enought to contribute to give rep points.
P.S. How soon do you get a contibutor icon after contributing?
P.S. How soon do you get a contibutor icon after contributing?
breedingcolors
Freaky!
Maybe you can bring it back again with two changes.
One: the posts that are make in the photo gallery are not eligible for rep point.
Two: only those with a predefine minimum rep point or green dot could give bad rep point.
As a newbie, I liked the reputation system. When I helped someone and I had received good point, I was happy as I had felt that I had contributing here. And when I made a bad post (had one time), I knew with the bad points that I had cross the line. I found it a great guide for all of us even if some (like anywhere else) had abused of this system. And when I asked questions, it help me knowing who to trust.
The problem actually with just the number of posts is that, for example, some here have a lot of posts, so for a newbie, they seems like they know what they are talking about. But the posts they made were either all in the photo gallery or for blasting others or give info that are not accurate. If someone had 300 posts and had 3 point, I knew is points was just for posting. If another one had 300 posts but had 20 points and 3 green dots, I knew this person knew probably more here and help more peoples than the other one.
There is always people that abuse any system. And I am not sure that punishing all the peoples here for maybe 2 or 3 is the best option. I understand you Rich, you don't have to be here 24h a day to check us. And I think that with the rep point system, it was a good way to make sure that even when you were not here, we all see that it all goes well here. Without the rep point system, how will we be able to delimited what is good and what is not. How will we be able to tell someone effectively that he or she is in a wrong track, that he or she cross the line?
The rep point were a guide for newbie, a guide to take with a grain of salt, but a good guide. I personally hope it will be back.
Just my 2 newbie cents.
One: the posts that are make in the photo gallery are not eligible for rep point.
Two: only those with a predefine minimum rep point or green dot could give bad rep point.
As a newbie, I liked the reputation system. When I helped someone and I had received good point, I was happy as I had felt that I had contributing here. And when I made a bad post (had one time), I knew with the bad points that I had cross the line. I found it a great guide for all of us even if some (like anywhere else) had abused of this system. And when I asked questions, it help me knowing who to trust.
The problem actually with just the number of posts is that, for example, some here have a lot of posts, so for a newbie, they seems like they know what they are talking about. But the posts they made were either all in the photo gallery or for blasting others or give info that are not accurate. If someone had 300 posts and had 3 point, I knew is points was just for posting. If another one had 300 posts but had 20 points and 3 green dots, I knew this person knew probably more here and help more peoples than the other one.
There is always people that abuse any system. And I am not sure that punishing all the peoples here for maybe 2 or 3 is the best option. I understand you Rich, you don't have to be here 24h a day to check us. And I think that with the rep point system, it was a good way to make sure that even when you were not here, we all see that it all goes well here. Without the rep point system, how will we be able to delimited what is good and what is not. How will we be able to tell someone effectively that he or she is in a wrong track, that he or she cross the line?
The rep point were a guide for newbie, a guide to take with a grain of salt, but a good guide. I personally hope it will be back.
Just my 2 newbie cents.
thelyonsking said:Just an idea- Is it possible that only contributors could give feedback? That would allow anyone to post, but only those who are devoted enought to contribute to give rep points.
P.S. How soon do you get a contibutor icon after contributing?
Yes, that can be done.
The icon (medallion) shows up as soon as I receive your donation and set it up for you.
girlsnake - sorry, neither one of your suggestions to re-implement the reputation system will work because they take custom programming to implement.
Sorry, but I just do not have time to babysit a few kids on this site that will abuse the reputation system. This site got along fine before I implemented it, so unless there is a way to put it back in where I will not be bothered by such things, then I certainly don't need the headaches. I am getting into my busy season and just do not have the time to mess with children like that cornman1979 fella.
Sasheena
Addicted
I feel that the reputation system can be abused, it was a sort of nice thing that made people feel good about themselves and about others. I hate seeing it abused. my own reputation points here were not so very high, and made smaller because I did choose to give one negative point for a bad post (and got a retaliatory point from that person).
I think that Rich should do the easiest of the following two options:
Make it positive only or...
Make it positive only except those who are contributors, who can also do negative posts.
whichever is easier for Rich to implement will be acceptable. It allows for pats on the back still and abuse of the system while it still might happen, will not be a rampage of negativity!
I think that Rich should do the easiest of the following two options:
Make it positive only or...
Make it positive only except those who are contributors, who can also do negative posts.
whichever is easier for Rich to implement will be acceptable. It allows for pats on the back still and abuse of the system while it still might happen, will not be a rampage of negativity!
Jimmy Johnson
Old Timer
one point
Someone had mentioned something about listing how many snakes you have and how long you have been keeping snakes to use as a guage on who to trust or believe and who not to.
Not a good idea.
I have seen people with only one years experience with a hell of a lot more practical knowldge then some of these supposed experts who have been keeping snakes for twenty years.
Number of years in the hobby does not neccessarily equal usable or exceptable knowledge.
my 2 cents.
As far as the rep points go.... I can take them or leave them.
It was nice to get comments about how your post helped someone but it was aslo a pain when you lost points just because someone disagreed with a post even if the information was correct.
So, as Rich said...The site thrived before rep points and will continue to thrive without.
Someone had mentioned something about listing how many snakes you have and how long you have been keeping snakes to use as a guage on who to trust or believe and who not to.
Not a good idea.
I have seen people with only one years experience with a hell of a lot more practical knowldge then some of these supposed experts who have been keeping snakes for twenty years.
Number of years in the hobby does not neccessarily equal usable or exceptable knowledge.
my 2 cents.
As far as the rep points go.... I can take them or leave them.
It was nice to get comments about how your post helped someone but it was aslo a pain when you lost points just because someone disagreed with a post even if the information was correct.
So, as Rich said...The site thrived before rep points and will continue to thrive without.
There are a number of options I can use to set in the Reputation system that will control not only how many points a person gets, bet when they get them and how they get them. Obviously I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, however....
CAV said:
Yeah, you do have a point there. Maybe there is even more behind it then that. Perhaps the contributors medallion should start meaning a little more then just the fact that someone is willing to donate towards the support of this forum. Perhaps the fact that someone IS willing to spend a few $$ to help around here should be considered a defacto indicator of their reputation around here. And to keep it from being a case where someone could simply buy into this club, I could set it so that the medallion only shows up after the donator has ALSO posted a certain number of posts here.
Heck I don't know. Trying to be fair is not as easy as it would seem on the surface.
I kind of think cav's point about contributors is good. I don't know how Rich finds the time to run this site and keep all his snakes healthy, let alone all the record keeping, boggles the mind. I sort of feel bad now for raggin on cornputz so much, but I was doing it the grotto, which is what I thought the Red Dot Grotto was for. About the rep thing, I'd rather see something like ebay's feedback, forget about points. If someone visits here regularly for several months,as I have, they can figure out who knows their s*** and who doesn't.
sorry but I retract what few favorable opinions I had about the rep sytem for the record and for whatever it's worth. It has clearly caused many problems and has hurt people. We all got along better without it. If it is brought back , I will not participate with it in any way.Jason B. said:
Added: I'm not trying to be on a high horse, but I'm really missing my first year or so here. This place really kicked butt. Sorry for my own negativity several times.
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