What happens to a deer. (WARNING:Carnage shots)

[*salAMANDA88*]

*hear them*

 

[Khaman]

I need to see if I can find my pics of what happens to a Corvette when it hits a coyote doing 120MPH.

 

[JustineNYC]

What your dogs. Coyotes are very smart. They lured my friends Lab away from her property and ganged up on him. He died from his wounds the next day. They are very smart and know how to lure.

 

[RavenSpirit360]

I love hearing the coyotes too..I hear them from my bedroom at night sometimes.. Thats why I dont let my cats out after dark.. I could never shoot one, even if it is a problem.. He was just doing what comes natural to him.. But it is up to your grandfather personally what he does with it.. im not going to judge..

 

[*salAMANDA88*]

What your dogs. Coyotes are very smart. They lured my friends Lab away from her property and ganged up on him. He died from his wounds the next day. They are very smart and know how to lure.

Yeah which is why its scarey..there is not just "one" coyote..you see one..there are more in the woods...waiting and hiding...

I need to see if I can find my pics of what happens to a Corvette when it hits a coyote doing 120MPH.

Bahahaha..thats great..I bet the odds are not good for either of them...lol.

I love hearing the coyotes too..I hear them from my bedroom at night sometimes.. Thats why I dont let my cats out after dark.. I could never shoot one, even if it is a problem.. He was just doing what comes natural to him.. But it is up to your grandfather personally what he does with it.. im not going to judge..

Yeah my cats stay inside....my cat is very quick..but fat and pudgy..he'd look good to a coyote..lol.
and thank you for not judging...its hard for people to really understand where I am comming from..as Maine is Very different from any other state..including other new england states..
.but Its why I love living here..

anyway.
Thanks again

~~Amanda:cheers:

 

[Khaman]

We have a pack in the woods behind the plant and one darted out on the test track one day. The front fascia, hood and windshield were damaged the rest not so much.

 

[medusacoils]

No one is going to like what I have to say about coyote's. They are vermin! While hunting or even if I had a firearm in my hand, if I saw one, I would shoot it! They can easily over populate an area, when they are the primary predator (hunting if closed) and if prey becomes scarce, then they turn to potential non prey animals! They are supposed to be a solitary animal but more and more, we are seeing them in packs, which can be dangerous!

I do like the sound of their howls and yips! They are a pretty little dog! But, they are still a nuisance! I have lost many a cat to them!

Wayne

 

[mynamesrick]

No one is going to like what I have to say about coyote's. They are vermin! While hunting or even if I had a firearm in my hand, if I saw one, I would shoot it! They can easily over populate an area, when they are the primary predator (hunting if closed) and if prey becomes scarce, then they turn to potential non prey animals! They are supposed to be a solitary animal but more and more, we are seeing them in packs, which can be dangerous!

I do like the sound of their howls and yips! They are a pretty little dog! But, they are still a nuisance! I have lost many a cat to them!

Wayne

I feel the same way. we often set up traps out side their holes, but i dont like dealing with the dead animal when getting the trap back.. so we usually just set up a little blind, or sit in the corn field, take out the .223s and call them in using predator calls. its actually kind of fun!

 

[Ginafish]

I was born and grew up in Southern California, and out there where the housing developments are being built right up into the natural range for coyotes, there's been some real issues between people and coyotes. I remember my parents wouldn't let me and my friends go hiking or on the trails in the hills because coyotes were known to come down and attack, kids and domesticated pets especially. Otherwise I don't recall there ever being any conflict with them.

Nowadays, living in Utah and right on the Wasatch Front, which is connected to the Rockies, I've seen several coyotes when I've been up hiking. We also have a decent-size deer population here, so I think that might lure coyotes too. I don't have a problem with them, really. They're good survivors and resourceful predators, but when it comes down to issues like coyotes crossbreeding with dogs, that's where a line should be drawn.

With people encroaching further and further upon the natural habitat for these animals, though, I think maybe it'd be helpful if people were more mindful to maybe find ways to build deterrent systems, like those call boxes they set up near ranch fences, or even to build fences themselves to help keep wildlife from getting into a dangerous situation with humans. :shrugs:

 

[JustineNYC]

With people encroaching further and further upon the natural habitat for these animals, though, I think maybe it'd be helpful if people were more mindful to maybe find ways to build deterrent systems, like those call boxes they set up near ranch fences, or even to build fences themselves to help keep wildlife from getting into a dangerous situation with humans. :shrugs:

I agree. A simple wire fence is all you need. I dont presume to think because I am a human I have the right to go out and shoot animals because I can.

They had that thing in Jersey a few years ago where they wanted people to go out and shoot bears because there was too many of them. There isnt too many, they are losing their habitats and being squeezed into an increasingly small area.

I dont understand hunting and I dont like it. My bf is a hunter and he gives me that "top of the food chain" speech. Id like to see someone drop him in the middle of a safari in Africa and see how top of the food chain he is.

I dont see a difference between people who go out and kill snakes because they dont like them or fear them, and this.

 

[mynamesrick]

Honestly, if they didnt eat our cattle, i wouldnt have any problems with them. however when they start costing us thousands of dollars each year, something has to be done about the issue. At this farm, a fence just wouldnt work, not only would have to build the wire fence higher, but you would have to find a way to make sure they dont dig their way under the fence, because they are very good diggers, as they make their den's under ground. this fence idea would cost a TON of money to do and would also be a pain to repair and fix.

 

[Hypancistrus]

I agree. A simple wire fence is all you need. I dont presume to think because I am a human I have the right to go out and shoot animals because I can.

They had that thing in Jersey a few years ago where they wanted people to go out and shoot bears because there was too many of them. There isnt too many, they are losing their habitats and being squeezed into an increasingly small area.

I dont understand hunting and I dont like it. My bf is a hunter and he gives me that "top of the food chain" speech. Id like to see someone drop him in the middle of a safari in Africa and see how top of the food chain he is.

I dont see a difference between people who go out and kill snakes because they dont like them or fear them, and this.

There is no good solution to the human encroachment on wildlife habitat problem, however, in MD black bears in Western Maryland are so common that the young males are being forced into the lower reaches of the state where roads and vehicles are more prevalent, as well as human developments and homes. From what I remember reading about the New Jersey situation, it was similar to what is happening in MD.

As much as we like to think that we can "go back to the old days," when wolves, bears and coyotes had free roam of the country and humans had homesteads that were a part of the natural environment, we just can't. You can't turn the clock back that way, and people and large carnivores really don't mix well.

I am all for reintroduction programs into larger state and national parks and forests, but when it comes to predatory wildlife in heavily populated areas like central MD, it's a no go. I would much rather see licensed hunters take care of the problem for us, and generate income for the state and food for their families tables, than to see bears hit by cars and wasted, or see them breaking into homes and outbuildings and terrorizing families and old people.

Same thing with coyotes.

Hunting is an incredibly viable solution to wildlife overpopulation-- much more so than fencing, trap-and-remove or that God awful waste of money "birth control" that PETA touts.

 

[Ginafish]

Honestly, if they didnt eat our cattle, i wouldnt have any problems with them. however when they start costing us thousands of dollars each year, something has to be done about the issue. At this farm, a fence just wouldnt work, not only would have to build the wire fence higher, but you would have to find a way to make sure they dont dig their way under the fence, because they are very good diggers, as they make their den's under ground. this fence idea would cost a TON of money to do and would also be a pain to repair and fix.

You have a point, there, in that it would cost a pretty penny to build the amount of fencing that would be required to keep coyotes out of grazing land for cattle and other livestock.

I think views on animals like coyotes, predators that have their territory encroached on/are encroaching on human locales are largely influenced by where people grow up. I mean, it seems to me that largely those that are for the culling of coyote populations are those who live in rural areas and also areas where livestock play at least some part in bringing in income, whereas those of us who live in locales where we don't have many run-ins with these animals are more for seeing them less as nuisance animals and more as an animal that's entitled to the same chance at thriving as anyone else.
Granted, it's not as black and white as all of this, but that's just my opinion.

 

[mynamesrick]

You have a point, there, in that it would cost a pretty penny to build the amount of fencing that would be required to keep coyotes out of grazing land for cattle and other livestock.

I think views on animals like coyotes, predators that have their territory encroached on/are encroaching on human locales are largely influenced by where people grow up. I mean, it seems to me that largely those that are for the culling of coyote populations are those who live in rural areas and also areas where livestock play at least some part in bringing in income, whereas those of us who live in locales where we don't have many run-ins with these animals are more for seeing them less as nuisance animals and more as an animal that's entitled to the same chance at thriving as anyone else.
Granted, it's not as black and white as all of this, but that's just my opinion.

I think thats just it, people dont realize how much these animals cost farmers every year. In addition to costing money, they also cost time, because when coyotes try to attack cows, the cows get scared and cause them to run straight through the electric, and barbed wire fences, causing many hours of labor for repairs.(trust me, it SUCKS!) sometimes they cause escapes because of this, in which case they need to round them up.

 

[tricksterpup]

Amazing how people here are.. we damn coyotes for possibly attacking dogs but if it was a large Australian snake we need to keep our eyes on our pets and children.

Folks, pure and simple, this is an animal that should be protected. We are the invaders and not the other way around. These animals do more good than harm in the long run by eating rodents and other pest animals. Coyotes rarely bring down Cattle. They are just a small predator. If they do bring one down, its usually due to it being sick or other reasons.
Actually, feral dogs cause more harm to local residents than coyotes do. Usually, its a feral dog that has done the wrong and not the coyote.

We need to start focusing ways on finding a way to co-exsist with these animals instead of killing them. Our world is at a stand point where we are causing more mass extinctions at a faster rate than a asteroid did.

As for Coyotes being solitary animals, that is a huge myth. They used to be pack animals until we came in and started to kill them and take bounties on them. They turned around and adapted a social behavior of living solo in many areas and it has worked.

To many Native American cultures, this animal was a teacher and a guide. they respected this animal and I think we should learn some thing from them.

 

[Hypancistrus]

Amazing how people here are.. we damn coyotes for possibly attacking dogs....

I don't think there are many people here "damning" coyotes... in fact most have expressed interest in them in their wild habitats, but you cannot escape the fact that they can be a menace to farmers, and sometimes have to be controlled.

I wouldn't want Burmese Pythons or Retics roaming my suburban neighborhood either, and I'd be all for controlling their populations too.

Now if you move out into the sticks, then yeah, you're going to have to learn to live with the local wildlife.

But again, that doesn't mean you would be, in my opinion, required to tolerate a black bear that breaks into your barn and menaces your 4 year old son, as happened in MD two summers ago.

 

[Brewster320]

To be honest MA has a huge problem with coyotes, especially my area. They are always in the trash, take pets all the time, are getting, and are getting bold. There have been several times in my city and neighboring cities that coyotes have tried to attack people. There are 3 cases that i remember really well. The first one happened when i was in 5th or 6th grade, a little girl was playing with her kitten in the front yard and the mother was watching her through the window.

A coyote came running out of the woods and charged the little girl but thankfully the family's german shepard chased it off.

the second time happened when I was in 7th grade. a man was walking his dog through a golf course when they were charged by a coyote. Although it never went through with it attack and they got away safely.

The 3rd inciedent happened a few months ago actually I red it in the paper. A lady was walking through a cemetry as a cop in a police car was driving by. A large coyote charged the woman and she ran and was able to hop in the cop car before it reached her. police went back later to the area and shot an 80 pound coyote. Thats really scarey considering they are only supposed to get between 30-50 pounds.

I don't have a problem with coyotes but considering both my moms dogs are small breed you have to really keep an eye out.

 

[mdrews]

If I knowingly let my dog out unsupervised in coyote terf than my bad, but I do feel that when they become problem animals and overpopulate an area, then sometimes you do what you must.We've had white tailed cullings in place due to extreme over population. This helps the population thrive but not burn out.Plus you can score a delicious meal!

 

[*salAMANDA88*]

or even to build fences themselves to help keep wildlife from getting into a dangerous situation with humans. :shrugs:

Often people will build fences..But it is way easier said than done..and a good fence that "Really" works..is pretty expensive..so with over population, and cross breeding..not to mention the decline of their "Prey" species.
Thinning out the coyote numbers is not such a bad thing.
I really like coyotes..I love seeing them and hering them.I think they are a great animal, and I respect them and their environment.
But I am not at all against shooting one once in a while....and it has nothing to do with the fact that we are taking their land..because I hate human development..which is another reason I love living in the sticks..lol
but..when a potentially dangerous animal is causing a problem..like the coyote, which Here in Maine..can afford to spare a life..its okay to solve it the best way...shoot it..
you cant relocate it..if its sick it will just infect any other animals around, and if its a hybrid..there is no reason to keep it..it will just breed with the other coyotes, and dammage the natural population anyway..
so anyway thats my bit..I really dont care, and I hope that he does shoot it.
for ovbious reasons...
~~Amanda:cheers:

 

[Nanci]

Amazing how people here are.. we damn coyotes for possibly attacking dogs but if it was a large Australian snake we need to keep our eyes on our pets and children.

That's because we _like_ snakes!

I'm not damning yotes, I'm saying that in many areas they are a harvestable, renewable resource just like deer and geese and other game. One man's nuisance is another man's hundred dollar bill.