Whats the deal!

[snakemom1961]

I still would most like to ask what place inciting the lynching of the president has on this forum? As much as I or anyone else on here can second-guess, it's really only Susan's explanation that matters, as she made the post.

It appears as though we will be kept waiting. I too look forward to Susan's explanation as to why she would make such a post.

 

[KJUN]

Hey I have the "insult equivelancy" chart opened up in another browser, and by my calculations I still owe you a few more names. I'm on a 60 point system, and "prick" is only worth 4 points. I can get it over with and just call you a **** *** ** **** *** **** ***** ****** ***** ** ****, or save my points by repping those who say it for me. BTW, you weren't supposed to decode that message; it's top secret!!.

How about this? That was your last free ride on the name calling. Roy asked us to stop, and I did (although you never even made the attempt). It doesn't bother me because I know it's just a childish lashing out by someone that can't argue logically. It's just getting repetitive and tiring. However, you on the other hand were obviously so bothered by my comments because, well, the shoe must have fit at least in your own approximation. As it is, YOU are the one escalating the name calling. Is that really the route you want to go?

 

[KJUN]

I say sexetary because it makes her giggle and feel pretty.

Excuse me for getting serious for a second, but is "her" the politically correct term such a character? Personally, I'd always have used the biologically-correct term and not the gender-correct term. (I'd never use the dress-correct term since so many women wear men's clothes who are not considered transvestites and are both female in terms of biological and gender.)

I really don't know, and this now has me curious. I'll probably always resort to using it biologically correct since I'm more of a biologist than a sociologist, but I would like to know the "polite" way to reference that class.

It's like dwarf and midget. Who would have guessed on is acceptable and one is considered offensive? ...and it is the OPPOSITE of what I would have guessed if someone would have asked me which one sounds more offensive. Live and learn....and people are WAY too sensitive.

 

[tricksterpup]

KJ,
I believe the correct way of viewing it as how the person wants to be viewed. If he refers to himself as a she or vice versa, then thats what they should be considered. If they adopt a gender altering name then we should refer to them as such.

But yes a person can never get rid of that Y chromosome or that Double X.

 

[KJUN]

Why do we keep bringing them up while ignoring Tara, Janine, SnakeMom1961 (whose name escapes me-- apologies!) and Danielle? Why isn't anyone poking at them and accusing them of "looking for offence?"

I can speak for myself. Personally, I might not have agreed with their thinking, but I could respect it. (Mainly, my disagreement was how the word could be taken - i.e., by me - not HOW Susan really meant it.) Big difference. I'm defending the use of the word - not her meaning because only Susan knows that. Anyway (to get back to the point I was making), those couple don't scream racism after after post that disagrees with them. Those couple come across (to me) as honestly meaning what they say.

Micheal and ESPECIALLY Ricky are just the boy that screamed wolf too many times. ANYTHING that is said against Obama is racist. It I said, "I don't like that he is pushing health care" they reply along the lines of, "You just say that because he doesn't LOOK the part." Boy who yelled, "wolf!"

Then, the irony after using the spade comments was just too funny. Attack Susan for using a word they find racial (whether she meant it that way or not was debatable) after using a statement that many of us know has strong racial connotations. Irony much? It just seems it is OK for them if THEY don't mean the racial term but not OK for someone else if they use a word that THEY find racial. You know the people on the interstate that calls anyone driving slower than them a jerk and anyone driving faster a butthead? Well, that's what seems to be going on here. People expect to be forgiven if they use a word someone ELSE finds offensive, but they don't assume that anyone else could use a word and not mean it the offensive way THEY interpret it. THAT is not justifiable.

 

[KJUN]

It's the only real way cultures change in this nation (ie. Slavery, Segregation, Women's Rights, and now Gay rights).

That's part of the problem. We talk about black rights, gay rights, women's rights, etc. There is NO SUCH THING. There are no Black rights, or women's rights, or white's right......There are RIGHTS! Human Rights! Gays (for example) shouldn't demand GAY RIGHTS like they are different (better or worse) than my rights for not being gay. I believe this is why, sometimes, outsiders have trouble agreeing with those minority groups. They don't deserve GAY rights...they deserve their human rights. Gay doesn't matter. Black doesn't matter. Rights are rights, and implying they are different rights via a name is where I think there is a mistake.

No minority group deserves different rights. They deserve the same rights. Human rights. No, some people think their human rights include a free TV, and that isn't true. Too many peopel - of EVERY group - confuse wants with rights.

KJ

 

[ghosthousecorns]

Well technically it was ME that opened the whole big can of worms. Not Michael or Ricky. I know y'all don't care much for them KJ but the original whiny bitch post that started the whole mess was mine. Now I haven't felt the need to keep posting on this thread because others more eloquent have stepped in. I don't know what Susan meant I am not walking in her shoes. The whole reason I even brought it up was as an example of why I find political stuff unpleasant.

 

[KJUN]

I actually disagree with Eric's comments on "equal power" giving an insult meaning. It really does depend on how it is meant and how it is taken. HOWEVER, it goes beyond that.

I have a good friend (older guy) named Bill. His comments were that insults never bother him because either they aren't true or they are true. If they aren't true, then who cares? They don't apply! If they are true, and they bother me, then I should try to change it. If they are true and it doesn't bother me, then it isn't an insult after all!

Think about it. Why DOES it hurt you if it isn't true? If it bothers you, then it MUST be true....and why don't you change it so it isn't?

and in coordination with other statements

...made later! You justify previous beliefs with later facts. You made a decisions without full evidence.....and you don't think that is a form of prejudice? Just think about that.

 

[danielle]

Jen I love you and your whiny biotch post!!! I am just holding judgement on intent until Susan actually explains the added bonus part. We all sarcastically say things so her lynching Obama quote to me wasn't taken too seriously by me- but I admit to being insensitive and overly sarcastic so I am probably not the best judge.

 

[KJUN]

So it may not change the world, but it could spoil your life if they start to look more closely into your ideals and beliefs....

Yep. Let fear kill the freedom of speech. Is that what you are kinda suggesting? I suspect the administration supports that idea. Not being vocal shows how much you DO fear them, and then they win whether they were playing the game or not.

Oh, and what is scary to me is that the people that were being vocal about a revolution have shut up. The people who weren't are now vocal. It seems like the ones that were vocal are sitting back and thinking, "No doubt it is coming now - I'll just wait." the ones that WERE vocal but aren't now are the ones that should scare the federal LEO. Really. Us vocal ones seem to just be on the level of talk-only. The ones that stopped might be the ones planning and preparing. I'm vocal, so I'm not in that group.....lol.....BUT I do wonder what they are doing now that they've seemed to disappear.....

 

[dave partington]

Couple things... first off, "fag" is a word that is generally considered offensive and not something one likes to hear in polite conversation. Something akin to the n-word. You will hear some gay people use it for much the same reasons that you will hear some African American people use the n-word... to take control of the word, take ownership of it, so that it cannot be used to hurt them. My personal feeling on that is that we should not use the word because doing so "makes it okay."

Not like it's hardly the first time it ever happened. I guess applying apathy to the situation was no longer working, so it was time to try something new. I would prefer to believe that, then to suspect there might be double standards around here. May I ask why you waited until now?

 

[KJUN]

Well technically it was ME that opened the whole big can of worms. Not Michael or Ricky. I know y'all don't care much for them KJ but the original whiny bitch post that started the whole mess was mine. Now I haven't felt the need to keep posting on this thread because others more eloquent have stepped in. I don't know what Susan meant I am not walking in her shoes. The whole reason I even brought it up was as an example of why I find political stuff unpleasant.

As I kinda already said, I respect that. I always felt it was an HONEST thought of yours, and I never called it whiny or anything like that. My argument wasn't over how Susan meant it - my argument was over if the word itself was "bad." If she would have said "we might have the lynch Palen," this argument would have never started in reference to the race aspect. Therefore, that would have proven my point that the word itself isn't bad. That's all I've argued. I can respect that you found it offensive. I just don't think we have a right to not be offended (like the spade comment). That's all.

 

[danielle]

I wanted to lynch Palin in a sarcastic kinda way

 

[snakemom1961]

I think I just heard Susan's sister.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=d4e0fac5-21e9-4501-a7bf-e49346568985

 

[wade]

I don't know Aubre O'day but that thirty second clip pretty much convinced me she is definately an air head.

 

[snakemom1961]

Airhead or not... Her views pretty much sound the same as Susan's. Either way I have no respect for either woman.

 

[jazzgeek]

I wanted to lynch Palin in a sarcastic kinda way

It's a waste of energy; she's self-lynching.


Dale

 

[danielle]

Exactly Dale,lol!!

 

[Carinata]

Oh MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People this thread has gotton so frggin obnoxious! Lets all agree to disagree

 

[jazzgeek]

Oh MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People this thread has gotton so frggin obnoxious! Lets all agree to disagree

I disagree.


Dale