Whats the deal!

[diamondlil]

Personally, I'm still waiting for Susan to explain her comments. I'm vocal because I was shocked and dismayed to see what I saw as racial bigotry and an incitement to assassinate the serving President on this forum. If I misinterpreted Susan's post and her intent, I'll apologise to her.

 

[Carinata]

What was susans comment!

 

[diamondlil]

Typical of a liberal to see a term only as racial. The definition says nothing about race and lynchings have been performed on and by every race, creed and color throughout history around the world:



Socialist/communist leaders that are "voted" into power have a tendency to remain there. We often call them dictators. Sometimes, the only way to get rid of them is to kill them without due process of law. The fact that Obama is black was only an added bonus to my comment, but not the reason behind it. And in my personal opinion, I don't classify Obama with African Americans (or whatever the current politically correct term is for today). I place him with the Al Qaeda terrorists.

There are always 2 sides to everything. It all depends upon which side is the "winner". To some, our founding fathers are heroes. To others, they are traitors. It may come to pass that what I have posted on this forum will lead to my execution. Some will consider it due justice for a traitor. Some will consider it a travesty of justice. None of that matters to me. What DOES matter is how God judges my words and my actions, and I am confident in what that judgment will be.

Here's the post I find objectionable

 

[Michael823]

So this is the spade comment that was so highly offensive.

I will stick up for Ricky here as I would any other member, so no ganging up accusations here, just calling a spade a spade.

I posted this in response in another thread, and was confused how someone found it offensive. Until now I didn't realize it was the spade comment that might be seen as offensive, as I honestly thought it was interpreted as calling it like it is, and meant no other statement.

Michael, in the spirit of keeping this a polite discussion, please try to refrain from comments that certain people may find derogatory or offensive. Thanks.

Apparently Wade thought it was offensive, because of the spade comment. Which now makes sense, seeing I guess it does have a certain meaning to others.

You can’t have it both ways. If you feel free to criticize everything Bush did, and you have on many occasions, then you can’t get upset if people criticize Obama for doing the same thing. I mean I’m just calling a spade a spade.

But this confuses me?

 

[Carinata]

Moderators...what have they come to these days!

 

[wade]

Mikey baby, give me a break. I was screwing with you, it was a joke. I was throwing your words back at you. Ha Ha, I laugh, humor. Look it up.

 

[diamondlil]

Moderators...what have they come to these days!

Apparently moderators are not supposed to be under any obligation to post in any particular fashion. :shrugs:

 

[KJUN]

Whatever KJUN. Go ahead and throw me under the bus even more, when you can just check my posts and see that is not the case. "Oh I respect your opinion, it's honest. But there's... well, their opinions are just the boy crying wolf. At least be honest with yourself and say you have a personal problem with us, because nothing in this thread was crying wolf, and wasn't any more against the grain than any other post.

Actually, when y'all post as one and answer for each other, I DO have a problem with y'all. When Michael posts as Micheal, I have very little problems with Micheal. If Ricky wouldn't be speaking for you half of the time, I think very few people would have a problem with you.

However, my feelings aside for Ricky or you, that is irrelevant. One or both of you are famous for calling anyone that doesn't like his policies a racist. That's calling Wolf, and your (you, Ricky, or both) doing that is why I offer you so little slack. I don't appreciate the name calling, and I don't forget lightly. It doesn't bother me because I know why I hate the man so much, and it has nothing to do with race. Your intent to libel my character is what has me so disgusted with your discussion techniques. Y'all cry WOLF too much for many people to care about it any longer.

I'm not buying it. The ones that are now quiet, are the ones that realize their demonstrations were built on fear mongering and hate speech, and now they have no choice but to take a back seat.
And the vocal ones are just being more vocal now because they're opportunistic, and find it the best time to speak up.

Excuse me for pointing out that you are speaking from ignorance. Do you even KNOW the group of people I'm referring to? These ARE rightw-ing extremists. Do you even know a real member of the firearm culture? I mean a law-abiding citizen that feels his firearms are an extension of his self. No offense, but someone barely old enough to buy a pistol is unlikely to know about the group I'm discussing. Again, don't feel compelled to answer something that you know nothing about. Just let it go and try to find out info before posting.

That's because "lynch" wouldn't have been a likely term used on Palin, especially seeing the anti Palin folks aren't nearly as filled with hate and violent threats as the anti Obama folks.
I think a term used for Palin running this country into the ground might have been field dressing rather than lynching !

Enough of the spade comment diversion. I clearly knew no other meaning, and you never brought it up in the original thread, or to the many others that have used it before too.

It isn't a diversion. ...and I used lynch to describe a white guy that needed it. It is a real question: why is it OK for you to use a racially charged word (through claimed ignorance that I don't believe) but nobody else can use a word that you find offensive if they don't mean it in an offensive way? WHAT is the difference? I use lynch, and I don't mean it racially. You use spade and don't mean it racially. Why am I wrong and you are right? Is it because you can do no wrong?

...oh, and to everyone else, governments SHOULD be held responsible when they do actuions that harm their people. When they go against the people's wishes and hurt them, they SHOULD fear for their lives - not just their jobs or future salaries!

 

[wade]

Three things I’ve learned in life, Don’t throw rocks as Super Man, Don’t pee into the wind, and don’t piss off the moderators.

 

[diamondlil]

...oh, and to everyone else, governments SHOULD be held responsible when they do actuions that harm their people. When they go against the people's wishes and hurt them, they SHOULD fear for their lives - not just their jobs or future salaries!

Erm....I take you are also in favour of armed revolution and murdering elected Govt officials? And just how does advocating an armed coup seperate you from any other dictator/revolutionary/terrorist/freedom-fighter? (the terms are largely interchangeable depending on which side of the revolution you're standing)

 

[Susan]

I think I just heard Susan's sister.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=d4e0fac5-21e9-4501-a7bf-e49346568985

You really have no idea what my sister is like, so please refrain from making statements about her.

Airhead or not... Her views pretty much sound the same as Susan's. Either way I have no respect for either woman.

The intellect of people is not at all related to whether they are decent human beings or not. I will agree that Castro, Hitler, etc are/were very intelligent people. They would have to be in order to be able to do the atrocities that they have and still maintain control over their countries. She didn't condone their actions, just agreed with the statement about their intellect. And how many mass murderers can you name that had friends and neighbors say that they were extremely nice and that they were surprised to find out that they had committed such horrific crimes. I would think you could come up with quite a few. Besides, that isn't even the issue that has been discussed here concerning me.

Since several vocal members are insisting on a further explanation of the deep dark hidden meanings to everything I type, I shall do my best to spell it out for you...not that it would really make any difference anyway.

I do not like Obama.

I believe that what Obama wants to accomplish as President is to turn this country into a complete socialist/communist state and perhaps remain at it's head as dictator.

I believe that Obama also has ties to Al-Qaeda and terrorist ideals.

I recognize the unnerving resemblances between Obama and the anti-Christ.

There were several political discussions going on in the forum at the time of my initial "lynching" comment, including potential roads that Obama could take this country down.

I responded to several comments in that one post, first asking if KJUN could name a politician that wasn't a piece of fiction (humor present here folks) and then that if Obama was given a few more years in office (in order to be able to fulfill more of his communistic plans), that it may result in a "good ol' fashion lynchin'" (non-socialist Americans would probably take it upon themselves to remove Obama from office, with or without due process of law). Please make note of " ol' " instead of "old" and " lynchin' " instead of "lynching", an attempt to inflect a tone to the statement, implying the dialect of not only the South, but that of the old West as seen in a really bad grade B or spaghetti Western, where lynchings are often seen (they did that to Clint Eastwood in Hang 'Em High, for example). That intent at inflection indicates that attempt at humor at not only the possible path of Obama's leadership and the resulting action (as unfortunate as that path would be) but also at the double endendre at the fact that Obama is of negro heritage and such resulting action would be reminiscent of the days when racial lynching occurred ("bonus" to the humor of the statement). You must also understand the double edge to the statement and the humor as the thought of Obama's intents as I believe them to be really isn't funny and actually something I am dead serious about and that concerns me deeply.

Now that I have used up several hours of my time, if any of you need me to dissect any more of my statements into terms that you might comprehend, please let me know, but be aware that I will probably not be able to get to them as soon as you might like (therefore giving you plenty of time to twist and misconstrue them to your heart's content) as I am off of my vacation and back to my usual work schedule, which takes priority over this silliness.

 

[Carinata]

Susan I may be a child or mabye "that child" but I dislike obama as much as you but this is a public forum and I wouls not state my political opinions the way you did on an open international REPTILE forum! I think that this whole stupid argument could have been avoided if you had not worded it the way you did.
'Lil D

 

[diamondlil]

If I said how I feel about you I'd be banned from this site Susan.

 

[mike17l]

Susan I may be a child or mabye "that child" but I dislike obama as much as you but this is a public forum and I wouls not state my political opinions the way you did on an open international REPTILE forum! I think that this whole stupid argument could have been avoided if you had not worded it the way you did.
'Lil D

Oh MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! People this thread has gotton so frggin obnoxious! Lets all agree to disagree




Irony? Maybe.

 

[Carinata]

Susan, you area moderator you are supposed to set an example. I may be inclined to PM Rich about this. It upsets me that you are so critical of me and then you pst what you do. Diareha of the mouth

 

[danielle]

I may be reading this wrong so forgive me if my assumption is incorrect. By using a southern accent you infer to lynchings in the old days like in the south or old corny weterns and think if Obama should really turn into the antichrist as a socialist or communist and be lynched old fashion style the fact that he is black would make it even funnier than if he weren't because of the irony of the situation? I hope thats a wrong assumption on my part because thats definitely racist on some levels to find it more amusing that a black president be lynched even though I am not pleased so far with his actions- thats a pretty harsh and not so funny statement.

 

[medusacoils]

Erm....I take you are also in favour of armed revolution and murdering elected Govt officials? And just how does advocating an armed coup seperate you from any other dictator/revolutionary/terrorist/freedom-fighter? (the terms are largely interchangeable depending on which side of the revolution your standing)

I can't answer for KJ, but I can give you my thought on this. I don't think he was referring to actually murdering elected officials, but merely warning them.

To put it in simple terms, he is warning them that they are a government built by the people, of the people, for the people and if they overstep their boundaries by trying to take away the rights and liberties, that this country was founded on, then there could be another uprising.

Get it now!

Wayne

 

[danielle]

David, Do not even think about complaining especially with your recent checkered past here. I am hocked by the wording of the statement, but this is America and Susan is more than entitled to her opinion. It's not like she's the only one with racially incorrect opinions unfortunately a lot of people feel this way no matter how far society has come. So she said her bit and you disagree...welcome to being a young adult sometimes people do not agree on a topic, but you don't go tattle on them. If people had treated you that way you may have been banned some time ago. Tolerance is a word that has to work both ways you know

 

[Carinata]

I know tolerence goes both wasy but during that time Susan and other were tellign me about acting like an adult. And I don't think susan was acting like an adult

 

[Susan]

...not that it would really make any difference anyway...

Boy, did I call that one!

Susan, you area moderator you are supposed to set an example. I may be inclined to PM Rich about this. It upsets me that you are so critical of me and then you pst what you do. Diareha of the mouth

No, moderators are NOT supposed to set an example. I am NOT your parent. Moderators are to monitor the site for violations of the rules. I have not violated any forum rules, only voiced my opinion as so many others of you have done.

I may be reading this wrong so forgive me if my assumption is incorrect. By using a southern accent you infer to lynchings in the old days like in the south or old corny weterns and think if Obama should really turn into the antichrist as a socialist or communist and be lynched old fashion style the fact that he is black would make it even funnier than if he weren't because of the irony of the situation? I hope thats a wrong assumption on my part because thats definitely racist on some levels to find it more amusing that a black president be lynched even though I am not pleased so far with his actions- thats a pretty harsh and not so funny statement.

That is kind of difficult to read as your punctuation is a bit lacking. I'm not sure if you have it correct or not. Let me reiterate for you...IF Obama turns out to be a socialist/communist dictator and/or the anti-Christ, I would most definitely be in the lynch mob. How's that. Clear enough for you? And it has absolutely NO racial connotations to it at all as I would lynch ANY President, black, white or purple who tries to take my country and my freedom away from me.