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fight'n friday. would you tell your kid to go to school and fight??

At eighteen, you aren't fully aware of the impact on your future. Its just how it is in life. You aren't thinking about what may happen when you're forty because of your actions now (not you personally, its anyone near your age). Its not a reflection on you. We aren't truly capable of looking that far ahead. Forty is a million years away and another lifetime. You're young, full of life and invincible. Real maturity won't hit for another 5-10 years. So go ahead and blah blah blah, your time will come to face the music as a mature adult.
 
ii realise all this. im going into marines i think im an adult. i did think of jail time and the possibility of going to court for charges. i did think bout it
 
Since no one else is asking; why do you think he keyed your car in the first place?..If it was truly for no reason than I can understand wanting to get even, but fighting is the worst thing you can do..Trust me; your fault or not, this could and very well will come back to you. He'll one-up you with a rock, or a baseball bat, or whatever..Pretty soon it becomes a "Who's the baddest", in which case somebody is going to risk their health in a major way..Can't say it's not human to fight, but pride can destroy you if your not careful. As we all know violence solves nothing, and it sounds to me like you got yourself into something much larger than a few scratches, wouldn't you agree?.
 
i realise but if he comes back with a bat the court will say it was him since it was on file. but very good point. fighting wasnt worth it but i felt it was at the time.
 
lol...Nobody's perfect, and it's human nature to want to get even. Just don't get caught up in something that seems critical now, because slowly and surely it will lose the glory and become something embarrassing and/or painful.
 
Cant say ive never been in a fight lol but one thing i have learned is its much more fun to hit em in the wallet then the face. I understand why you did it but trust me your better off hurting em the legal way. i have a friend that broke up a fight and in the process ruffed up both guys to break them up "one of em fell and hit the curb" and got charged for being in the fight, after that he the marines wouldnt let him in due to his record. i bet after you get out of the marines you will understand what everyone is trying to tell you
 
That's a tough one.
If you read what happened this really wasn't about the truck. This punk kid wanted to insult, affront and mock the OP. He did it, then told the kids friends he did it, told the OP he did it and when nothing happened then he did it again. The OP tried to do the right thing and reported it to police, dean was made aware etc...again nothing happened. It's easy to sit back and say the OP should've done this or that in hindsight, but think about what you would do with this punk up in your face, bragging to your friends and you about what he did,every day, and your just waiting for him to do it again knowing nothing will still happen.
I'm the guy that always broke up the fights but I'm not sure what I would've done.
I think you, the OP, may have been able to take him to small claims court and possibly recouped some of the money for the damages to your truck.
Makes me wonder what would've happened to this same punk if he was doing this to the Dean's car under the same circumstances, would the cops have said, "awe, shucks nothing we can do"?
that being said, I would never have advised my son to fight someone, unless it was to protect himself or someone else, neither would I admonish him for having done what the OP did.
Best of Luck to the OP!
 
I bought my XTerra new in August of 2004. In September of 2004, I came out one morning to where I had parked it on the street and found that someone had keyed it the entire way down the passenger side. It's a really, really good thing that I didn't catch those punks in action. When you work hard to pay for things and keep them up, and somebody treats them without respect, it really pisses you off.

Can't say I would tell my son to go beat the snot out of someone, but I can certainly understand being hella pissed. :shrugs: Tough one.
 
I would never tell my child to take physical action against someone else if they weren't themselves harmed or in danger.
Now that I've said that, if it were me there would only be two witnesses.
Restraint and patience, nobody is on guard forever.
 
I wouldn't tell my kid to hit someone who didn't hit them first- thats our rule. If I were your mother I would have called the school and let them know their inaction after the 1st reported incident was taking me to file in small claims court against both of them, and then done it:)

Your young and male so I'm not shocked by your reaction at all- I have younger brothers who are just now calming down. You had every right to be pissed and report the incident, but next time hit the wallet not the boy:)
 
airenlow said:
Or, if you wouldn't have started a fight, none of this would have happened...
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l0ck_0ff said:
or if he hadnt keyed my truck 2 times.
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Two wrongs will never add up to equal a right, so now instead of just that guy being wrong, you are also wrong. Force should only be used when there are no other options and when force is being used against you. That is how responsible adults behave.

l0ck_0ff said:
yea i knew i would go to jail and get a ticket. dont bother me none
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I have to ask this...shouldn't this bother you? Shouldn't this bother your mom? I know it would bother me if I was might go to jail, and as a Mom it certainly would bother me if my kids might go to jail.

l0ck_0ff said:
lol no im not and and michael my marine recruiter is getting my ticket waived and the kid does have to pay ot get my truck fixed. so yes it is fixing my truck
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l0ck_0ff said:
lmao my recuiter understands why i did it thats why he is helping me
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This makes me so sad to hear. I know so many people who serve our country and this does not reflect well on the armed services at all. It makes me think they are desperate and willing to take just anyone. The men and women who I know that serve this country would never condone your behavior, they have too much self discipline and respect to be ok with that sort of thing. All I can say is I hope that when the marines get your behind they work some self discipline into it, because only then would you really be worthy of the respect that our soldiers deserve.
 
He tried to go through proper channels and got no satisfaction from the people who were supposed to help him. At least he isn't a sucker, after it happens _again_. That's the trouble with the direction _some_ people (not you Dinah, this isn't aimed at you at all) want to take this country- apologize for everything, let the rest of the world walk all over us, cease being a strong power that others fear (yes, fear!) and respect and don't provoke. I don't think fighting back, after attempting to right things the proper way, and not allowing yourself to be victimized a _third_ time, reflects poorly on this person's military potential at all.
 
Nanci said:
He tried to go through proper channels and got no satisfaction from the people who were supposed to help him. At least he isn't a sucker, after it happens _again_. That's the trouble with the direction _some_ people (not you Dinah, this isn't aimed at you at all) want to take this country- apologize for everything, let the rest of the world walk all over us, cease being a strong power that others fear (yes, fear!) and respect and don't provoke. I don't think fighting back, after attempting to right things the proper way, and not allowing yourself to be victimized a _third_ time, reflects poorly on this person's military potential at all.
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Isn't making other countries live in fear of us the exact same thing that terrorists try to do? Make others live in fear of them?
 
No, it keeps us safe from attacks. If we go somewhere and attack other countries to make them follow our beliefs, THAT is what terrorists do.
 
Nanci said:
I don't think fighting back, after attempting to right things the proper way, and not allowing yourself to be victimized a _third_ time, reflects poorly on this person's military potential at all.
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l0ck_0ff said:
the dean wanted me out for longer because i am appearently "dangerous" because i started it by pulling his hoodie over his face and hitting him 3 times then pulled the hoody off and hit him in the eye and the nose.
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This is what I think reflects the most poorly on him as a potential military member. I am not against defending ourselves, or even against standing up for what is right, but I am against punching some kid in the head several times after you have covered his eyes so that he cannot even see you to protect himself or fight back.

I cannot speak for the entire military and I do not serve in the military, but I come from a family with a lot of military members and I have many friends who serve so speaking just on behalf of them, I will say they would rather not have to serve next to some sort of loose cannon who does not even know how to fight fairly (I get that in war surprise can be an advantage, but this was a school yard fist fight and it was not fought fairly at all). I would hate to think that someone I care about would have to rely on someone like that. And that is how I always look at people who serve or who want to serve, my personal standard is do I want that person to be the one who *my* loved on has to depend on? It could very well be true that my personal standard is biased but it is personal for me because he could be the person that my loved one has to count on one day.
 
Dinah said:
Two wrongs will never add up to equal a right, so now instead of just that guy being wrong, you are also wrong. Force should only be used when there are no other options and when force is being used against you. That is how responsible adults behave.



I have to ask this...shouldn't this bother you? Shouldn't this bother your mom? I know it would bother me if I was might go to jail, and as a Mom it certainly would bother me if my kids might go to jail.





This makes me so sad to hear. I know so many people who serve our country and this does not reflect well on the armed services at all. It makes me think they are desperate and willing to take just anyone. The men and women who I know that serve this country would never condone your behavior, they have too much self discipline and respect to be ok with that sort of thing. All I can say is I hope that when the marines get your behind they work some self discipline into it, because only then would you really be worthy of the respect that our soldiers deserve.
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those people wont condone violence aftr they got out and they have been trained for discipline. im going to the marines to better myself.
 
Dinah said:
This is what I think reflects the most poorly on him as a potential military member. I am not against defending ourselves, or even against standing up for what is right, but I am against punching some kid in the head several times after you have covered his eyes so that he cannot even see you to protect himself or fight back.

I cannot speak for the entire military and I do not serve in the military, but I come from a family with a lot of military members and I have many friends who serve so speaking just on behalf of them, I will say they would rather not have to serve next to some sort of loose cannon who does not even know how to fight fairly (I get that in war surprise can be an advantage, but this was a school yard fist fight and it was not fought fairly at all). I would hate to think that someone I care about would have to rely on someone like that. And that is how I always look at people who serve or who want to serve, my personal standard is do I want that person to be the one who *my* loved on has to depend on? It could very well be true that my personal standard is biased but it is personal for me because he could be the person that my loved one has to count on one day.
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he seen me coming and i let him know we were gonna fight but he said ehh. whatever. and i also took his hoody off after i was done allowing him to see me he just didnt have the chance to swing
 
ForkedTung said:
That's a tough one.
If you read what happened this really wasn't about the truck. This punk kid wanted to insult, affront and mock the OP. He did it, then told the kids friends he did it, told the OP he did it and when nothing happened then he did it again. The OP tried to do the right thing and reported it to police, dean was made aware etc...again nothing happened. It's easy to sit back and say the OP should've done this or that in hindsight, but think about what you would do with this punk up in your face, bragging to your friends and you about what he did,every day, and your just waiting for him to do it again knowing nothing will still happen.
I'm the guy that always broke up the fights but I'm not sure what I would've done.
I think you, the OP, may have been able to take him to small claims court and possibly recouped some of the money for the damages to your truck.
Makes me wonder what would've happened to this same punk if he was doing this to the Dean's car under the same circumstances, would the cops have said, "awe, shucks nothing we can do"?
that being said, I would never have advised my son to fight someone, unless it was to protect himself or someone else, neither would I admonish him for having done what the OP did.
Best of Luck to the OP!
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Hypancistrus said:
I bought my XTerra new in August of 2004. In September of 2004, I came out one morning to where I had parked it on the street and found that someone had keyed it the entire way down the passenger side. It's a really, really good thing that I didn't catch those punks in action. When you work hard to pay for things and keep them up, and somebody treats them without respect, it really pisses you off.

Can't say I would tell my son to go beat the snot out of someone, but I can certainly understand being hella pissed. :shrugs: Tough one.
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Nanci said:
He tried to go through proper channels and got no satisfaction from the people who were supposed to help him. At least he isn't a sucker, after it happens _again_. That's the trouble with the direction _some_ people (not you Dinah, this isn't aimed at you at all) want to take this country- apologize for everything, let the rest of the world walk all over us, cease being a strong power that others fear (yes, fear!) and respect and don't provoke. I don't think fighting back, after attempting to right things the proper way, and not allowing yourself to be victimized a _third_ time, reflects poorly on this person's military potential at all.
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thank you forked tongue i did try to go the right route. nothing happened.
and if it was the dean this happened too that kid would have gotten expelled and arrested and tickets and court claims. but because im a highschool kid the cops dont care. thats why i fought. for my own satisfaction.

lauren and nanci-yall are right i was pissed and i did try to go the right way before doing what i did. but again no one wanted to help even after i told them i would fight the kid. so whatelse was i gonna do?
 
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