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fight'n friday. would you tell your kid to go to school and fight??

dionythicus said:
Yeah, that's a fair fight.
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it was completely fair. i told him i was gonna fight him and when and when i walked up to him he said yea ok whatever so i pulled his hoody over his face and gave it too him 3 times then i pulled the hoody off so he could see.
 
l0ck_0ff said:
yea i knew i would go to jail and get a ticket. dont bother me none
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It should bother you.

You realize, of course, that you and your parents are liable for damages to this individual, that he has every right to sue you and your parents for pain and suffering, hospital bills, lost wages, and with a good lawyer , a plethora of other personal injuries compensation claims.

It sucks that he keyed your car, dude, but punching him in the face isn't going to help. For whatever you end up getting out of a civil suit for your car...you're going to lose double that when this kid's parents sue your parents for his face.

And truth be told...if you really broke his eye socket...you're looking at 10-15,000 in surgical fees for reconstruction.

I didn't read through te whole thread, because it doesn't matter. If what you described in the first post is what happened...I hope you have a good lawyer, cause you are definitely gonna need it...
 
tyflier said:
It should bother you.

You realize, of course, that you and your parents are liable for damages to this individual, that he has every right to sue you and your parents for pain and suffering, hospital bills, lost wages, and with a good lawyer , a plethora of other personal injuries compensation claims.

It sucks that he keyed your car, dude, but punching him in the face isn't going to help. For whatever you end up getting out of a civil suit for your car...you're going to lose double that when this kid's parents sue your parents for his face.

And truth be told...if you really broke his eye socket...you're looking at 10-15,000 in surgical fees for reconstruction.

I didn't read through te whole thread, because it doesn't matter. If what you described in the first post is what happened...I hope you have a good lawyer, cause you are definitely gonna need it...
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hes 18 and so am i we would sue each other. my marine recruiter already has a lawyer set up for me his parents cant do anything to me. he declined to press charges. andi cracked hissocket nothing to re--construct it will heal fine he has to wear a plastic guard on his face. trust me i am already prepared for all this including my own lawyer who i pay good amount of my own money.
 
l0ck_0ff said:
those people wont condone violence aftr they got out and they have been trained for discipline. im going to the marines to better myself.
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l0ck_0ff said:
he seen me coming and i let him know we were gonna fight but he said ehh. whatever. and i also took his hoody off after i was done allowing him to see me he just didnt have the chance to swing
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You are not ever going to convince me that hitting a person who's vision you have blocked is ok. It is mean and unfair, and it is not an honorable way to fight. I am not saying this makes you a bad person or anything, I would like to hope that it was an error in your judgement that you would not repeat again in the future although I suppose that remains to be seen. And to be honest you don't seem to feel badly about it at all so I doubt my hope will be fulfilled.

I am also not saying don't join the armed services if that is what you want to do, but I do hope that they at least teach you respect, discipline, and how to fight fair. I wish that your recruiter would be an example to you and teach you to take responsibility for your actions rather than just getting you out of the ticket, but if he doesn't (and it doesn't appear that he will), then I can assure somewhere along the line in your life there will be someone who is willing to kick you in the behind and teach it to you the hard way.
 
l0ck_0ff said:
it was completely fair. i told him i was gonna fight him and when and when i walked up to him he said yea ok whatever so i pulled his hoody over his face and gave it too him 3 times then i pulled the hoody off so he could see.
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That's not a fight, it's an attack.

It was a scratch on a truck. It wasn't the end of the world. It was a pitiful threat to your manhood so you assaulted the guy. And about the police not caring, there are FAR worse crimes going on that a scratched truck. That's what the courts are for.

But I'm talking to a wall here, I realise that.
 
Dinah said:
You are not ever going to convince me that hitting a person who's vision you have blocked is ok. It is mean and unfair, and it is not an honorable way to fight. I am not saying this makes you a bad person or anything, I would like to hope that it was an error in your judgement that you would not repeat again in the future although I suppose that remains to be seen. And to be honest you don't seem to feel badly about it at all so I doubt my hope will be fulfilled.

I am also not saying don't join the armed services if that is what you want to do, but I do hope that they at least teach you respect, discipline, and how to fight fair. I wish that your recruiter would be an example to you and teach you to take responsibility for your actions rather than just getting you out of the ticket, but if he doesn't (and it doesn't appear that he will), then I can assure somewhere along the line in your life there will be someone who is willing to kick you in the behind and teach it to you the hard way.
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dionythicus said:
That's not a fight, it's an attack.

It was a scratch on a truck. It wasn't the end of the world. It was a pitiful threat to your manhood so you assaulted the guy. And about the police not caring, there are FAR worse crimes going on that a scratched truck. That's what the courts are for.

But I'm talking to a wall here, I realise that.
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the fight was fair i let him know i was going to fight him right then and there and he really didnt mind.

dinah-my recruiter is making me work this off by PTing every weekend. i spend all my free time there now. trust me im paying for it. and no i dont always fight like this. i have been in fights where they can see me. but if i can ill pull your shirt over your head i will i would rather do that and make them look like a fool than kicking them in the crotch and me looking like a fool

dionythicus- it is a scratch yes, but on my truck which I am MAKING PAYMENTS on out of MY pocket. i didnt do anything bout it i would have to see it everyday and i would have to get it fixed. everything comes from my pocket. 205 a month is alot of money and i dont wantthat money to go to waste once i pay off my truck that i cant re-sell it because he messed it up too badly.
 
l0ck_0ff said:
yea yea yea and im not braggin asking for inputs. i already know "your and adult now and this can... blah blah blah" i know believe me
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I can tell you that with this attitude you are not going to make it in the marines. Take it from someone who went through tech school with many marines in his class. Your attitude is childish and it doesnt seem like you fully underst"and the reprocutions. If you act like this in the Marines, someone will rip you a new one... I joined the military when i was 19 and i know now that back then I was not as mature as i thought.. You will realize this too. You should also know that this little fight that you "thought all the consequinces through" could have very well kept you from getting into the marines.

good luck on your service to the military, I know that when you get through boot camp that you will be a whole new person.
 
Dinah said:
I am also not saying don't join the armed services if that is what you want to do, but I do hope that they at least teach you respect, discipline, and how to fight fair. I wish that your recruiter would be an example to you and teach you to take responsibility for your actions rather than just getting you out of the ticket, but if he doesn't (and it doesn't appear that he will), then I can assure somewhere along the line in your life there will be someone who is willing to kick you in the behind and teach it to you the hard way.
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recruiters are trying to make a quota, most dont care what kind of person they pull in, If they can hide a ticket for a guy to get him to sign and get in.. they will.
 
l0ck_0ff said:
i have been in fights where they can see me. but if i can ill pull your shirt over your head i will i would rather do that and make them look like a fool than kicking them in the crotch and me looking like a fool
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Well it is up to each one of us to make our own choices in life, and those choices, actions, and deeds are what we will be judged by. If you think you actions were appropriate then that is your call to make. If you can rest easy punching someone in the face after you covered his vision then that is up to you, but do you really want to be that kind of person? I am not your judge, but I do get to have my own opinions. I think there is a lot more honor in an honest fight even if you have your behind handed to you, than there will ever be in a dirty fight like yours. And just like it is for you to decide how you want to behave and what you want to do, it is for me to decide how I personally feel about you. I cannot for the life of me understand how you think that hitting someone in the face after blocking his vision is supposed to make people see you in a positive way.
 
Outcast said:
I can tell you that with this attitude you are not going to make it in the marines. Take it from someone who went through tech school with many marines in his class. Your attitude is childish and it doesnt seem like you fully underst"and the reprocutions. If you act like this in the Marines, someone will rip you a new one... I joined the military when i was 19 and i know now that back then I was not as mature as i thought.. You will realize this too. You should also know that this little fight that you "thought all the consequinces through" could have very well kept you from getting into the marines.

good luck on your service to the military, I know that when you get through boot camp that you will be a whole new person.
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Dinah said:
Well it is up to each one of us to make our own choices in life, and those choices, actions, and deeds are what we will be judged by. If you think you actions were appropriate then that is your call to make. If you can rest easy punching someone in the face after you covered his vision then that is up to you, but do you really want to be that kind of person? I am not your judge, but I do get to have my own opinions. I think there is a lot more honor in an honest fight even if you have your behind handed to you, than there will ever be in a dirty fight like yours. And just like it is for you to decide how you want to behave and what you want to do, it is for me to decide how I personally feel about you. I cannot for the life of me understand how you think that hitting someone in the face after blocking his vision is supposed to make people see you in a positive way.
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outcast- i know i will make it in the marines my attitude is not childish about this. and i know once i join ill change hence why im going.. TO BETTER MYSELF

dinah- i blocked his vision only part of the time. he could see after. feel how you may but i did let him see at one point. he had the chance ot hit me back he could have tackled me he had many options. he just didnt take them
 
l0ck_0ff said:
outcast- i know i will make it in the marines my attitude is not childish about this. and i know once i join ill change hence why im going.. TO BETTER MYSELF

dinah- i blocked his vision only part of the time. he could see after. feel how you may but i did let him see at one point. he had the chance ot hit me back he could have tackled me he had many options. he just didnt take them
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The point is that you blocked his vision, period. It was a low thing to do. I know that no fight is fair, but you sunk really low with that one.

You should have showed your maturity about the matter and not even gotten into the fight... It takes a real man to look someone in the face and talk an issue over.

I have been in fights before, but they were with guns and i was fighting to keep myself and my buddies safe. Knowing the difference between fighting for a good reason and fighting over petty childish things is exactly what you need to learn.
 
l0ck_0ff said:
outcast- i know i will make it in the marines my attitude is not childish about this. and i know once i join ill change hence why im going.. TO BETTER MYSELF

dinah- i blocked his vision only part of the time. he could see after. feel how you may but i did let him see at one point. he had the chance ot hit me back he could have tackled me he had many options. he just didnt take them
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There is no reason you cannot begin to better yourself starting today. There is no time like the present.

As I have said you get to make your own choices but personally if I hit someone while they could not see I would feel like I had fought unfairly and like I had been a coward to hit someone who couldn't see to defend themselves. How you feel is up to you.
 
P.S.
My husband was a marine and he said it took years to shake off the anger and rage they instilled in him. While Im sure he believes in defending the country he regrets joining because the damage it did to his physche.
 
yellowbellyhippy said:
P.S.
My husband was a marine and he said it took years to shake off the anger and rage they instilled in him. While Im sure he believes in defending the country he regrets joining because the damage it did to his physche.
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i almost have to join. my dad mygrandpa all my uncles and my great grandpa were marines. so im carrying on the family traditions.

dinah-there is no time like a present to drink these draining seconds.
 
Nanci said:
He tried to go through proper channels and got no satisfaction from the people who were supposed to help him. At least he isn't a sucker, after it happens _again_. That's the trouble with the direction _some_ people (not you Dinah, this isn't aimed at you at all) want to take this country- apologize for everything, let the rest of the world walk all over us, cease being a strong power that others fear (yes, fear!) and respect and don't provoke. I don't think fighting back, after attempting to right things the proper way, and not allowing yourself to be victimized a _third_ time, reflects poorly on this person's military potential at all.
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If the kid and his recruiter want to condone and brag about fighting with no honor who are we to tell them to stop.

The thing is, he's gone this route once. Who's next to have a sucker punch?

Fighting a good fight is fine but the OP went and found this kid to beat him up and then forgot about honor. That's bad no matter what.

Kicking him in the balls, while something not condoned by those with no life experience, would have perhaps been embarrassing but would not have compromised the op's honor, which is non-existent at the moment.

Your recruiter is a lousy example of anything other than a telemarketer out to get his quota and you, op, are following in his footsteps if you continue on the path you've chosen.

If you can't be trusted, and you can't, you WILL cheat to win, how can guys with their lives on the line rely on you?
 
yellowbellyhippy said:
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My husband was a marine and he said it took years to shake off the anger and rage they instilled in him. While Im sure he believes in defending the country he regrets joining because the damage it did to his physche.
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My father said the same thing. To this day, he's a bitter, mean-spirited old man. I'm proud of the men and women who serve our country. Not so much how our country repays that service.
 
yellowbellyhippy said:
Sounds like an over load of testosterone and man-pride. Violence is NEVER the answer.
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There are times when violence is the only answer. For example if someone is breaking into my house to hurt me or my kids, then I would not hesitate to use violence whatever the cost is to the intruder. It is sad that there are times when violence is necessary but to say it is never an answer might be a touch overboard. I consider myself to be a kind and non violent person but at the same time I own a 12 gauge just in case someone is thinking they might want to do some violence against me or my family. I would hope that my willingness to do whatever it takes to protect myself wouldn't ever in this country at least be considered the wrong answer.


That being said there is a difference between a fair fight (or defending yourself) and a sucker punch.
 
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