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I am NOT a Satan Worshiper

That makes sense.
Still, though, religion is basically a good thing.
I don't have faith in magic stuff, but you can't dispute the good that a church does in the community.
Some aboriginal peoples around the world might dispute this! ;) (But I know what you're saying.)
 
And many dyslexic agnostics don't feel there's enough evidence to prove the existence of Dog.

:sidestep:

regards,
jazz
Funny you should say that...We also had insomniac dyslexic agnostics around here.....They lie awake at night wondering if there is a dog
 
Still, though, religion is basically a good thing.

I imagine this would really depend on who you ask. The fact that I can't marry (i.e. have a permanent legal relationship) with the woman of my choosing because of someone elses religious beliefs really doesn't endear religious peoples to me.....

I am also pretty sure that there are people around the world being persecuted for having beliefs different than the majority in their location. Bet they wouldn't say that religious is basically a good thing.

As for the nut job in the OP, well... I am gonna agree with desert_animal on this one... my bet is for CRAZY! LIKE A STRAW! :crazy02:
 
Funny that you should mention the crusades.....Thats how the people of the middle east see our intervention in their affairs... Same old same old as far as they're concerned....
 
I imagine this would really depend on who you ask. The fact that I can't marry (i.e. have a permanent legal relationship) with the woman of my choosing because of someone elses religious beliefs really doesn't endear religious peoples to me.....

I am also pretty sure that there are people around the world being persecuted for having beliefs different than the majority in their location. Bet they wouldn't say that religious is basically a good thing.

As for the nut job in the OP, well... I am gonna agree with desert_animal on this one... my bet is for CRAZY! LIKE A STRAW! :crazy02:

Yeah I think it really depends on who you ask. Christians have caused many problems within the community as well, including but not limited to hate crimes, imposing restrictions on same sex marriage, and general negative outspoken intolerance of other religions (most often slander). Christians on the other hand have also done many good things in the communities such as bringing food to the poor, opening up free daycares, and help in homeless shelters. So I think it is really a toss up. I will say that religion CAN be a good thing but that it really depends upon the individual.

Some aboriginal peoples around the world might dispute this!

LOL you wouldn't even have to travel around the world for many to dispute this.
 
I will say that religion CAN be a good thing but that it really depends upon the individual.
Thats the thing religion is religion and individuals are people...
People interfere to make their own end more comfortable in the name of religion...Then it gets bad press...
 
Jamay Im curious what you meant by all living things are creatures. Just curious

I wrote "All living things are creatures of God IMO." I simply meant that life is the result of God's hands, including the snake. There are no exceptions. I also fully believe in the theory of evolution and that all life on earth started from a single living thing.
 
I wrote "All living things are creatures of God IMO." I simply meant that life is the result of God's hands, including the snake. There are no exceptions. I also fully believe in the theory of evolution and that all life on earth started from a single living thing.
In the UK thats known as edging your bet...LOL
 
Good Day
I am a lay preacher and yes, scripture does not mention what type of tree, it says, "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil", where apple comes from?, who knows. Now, lets talk about Satan, the first and favourite of all Gods' Angels', Satan was indeed very powerfull, so much so that he thought he was more powerful than God and was therefore banished by God. Satan with all this power could have used any form he liked so a Serpent is just a form of advertising Satans abilities. If snakes are so bad why was Eve not afraid of it?

Ciao

Like I said, humans attached things to it. Items that we understand to help us better grasp this idea that there once was this perfect place.

IF THIS IS TOO NEAR THE KNUCKLE WILL A MOD DELETE IT PLEASE...
NO OFFENCE TO ANYONES BELIEF INTENDED
Eve wasn't affraid of the snake as it was a penis....It was Eve who tempted Adam The tree of knowledge etc. Was procreation something exclusive to God until Adam and Eve had other ideas...Thats why it is the original sin......Satan got Eve to undermine Gods power to create by tempting Adam with sex......

Where the heck did you go to church? Satan talked Eve into eating the fruit so she could be equal to God and choose what was right from wrong rather then having him tell her. If you read it God was upset with Eve but he was down right mad at Adam. It was his job to keep an eye on Eve and insure that she did not do anything. I HATE it when people hint that it's becasue of women that we live the way we do. Women were made to be more trusting, kind, caring, and giving so how can we be blame women?



I have to say I never thought that this thread would take off like this.
 
In order to NOT start a flame war, I won't use one religion, but here goes...

I was once told by a Sunday school teacher that to not be "of the faith",
is to worship Satan. I was then asked "Are you " of the faith?"
I was 5 years old. (Interestingly, I was later asked not to come back to this Sunday school.)


I once went to a lecture given by members of a certain large religious group that helps those in need. They were soliciting funds, for there Charity.
They explained how they had given a motor boat to a "native" man, in exchange for his help, getting supplies to and from the encampment. When I asked, if they had trained the man on proper care and maintenance of the motor boat, they said No. :shrugs: (Not much help there is it?) What happens when the encampment is abandoned? How does he get parts for the boat?
Later in the discussion, I asked, what of the religious beliefs of the "natives" They told me that, they ONLY offer help, to those in need, if the one in need will denounce whatever religious beliefs they have, and become followers "of the faith".

Doesn't really sound like help, does it?

The Holy Bible changes, depending on what version you read, and how it is interpreted, by the "new" author. So if this is true, then is it God's scripture that we revere, or something else ??
This does not sit well with me. It is not someone elses responsibility, to tell me what to believe, it is my own. God's word should be GOD'S WORD. Not God's word, as translated by Joe Shmo.

For those that don't believe the bible changes version to version, just do an internet search, you will see.
(I know it seems hard to believe, that in this day and age some people still do not know this.)
These are just my opinions. Take it all with a large grain of salt.:uhoh:
 
In order to NOT start a flame war, I won't use one religion, but here goes...

I was once told by a Sunday school teacher that to not be "of the faith",
is to worship Satan. I was then asked "Are you " of the faith?"
I was 5 years old. (Interestingly, I was later asked not to come back to this Sunday school.)


I once went to a lecture given by members of a certain large religious group that helps those in need. They were soliciting funds, for there Charity.
They explained how they had given a motor boat to a "native" man, in exchange for his help, getting supplies to and from the encampment. When I asked, if they had trained the man on proper care and maintenance of the motor boat, they said No. :shrugs: (Not much help there is it?) What happens when the encampment is abandoned? How does he get parts for the boat?
Later in the discussion, I asked, what of the religious beliefs of the "natives" They told me that, they ONLY offer help, to those in need, if the one in need will denounce whatever religious beliefs they have, and become followers "of the faith".

Doesn't really sound like help, does it?

The Holy Bible changes, depending on what version you read, and how it is interpreted, by the "new" author. So if this is true, then is it God's scripture that we revere, or something else ??
This does not sit well with me. It is not someone elses responsibility, to tell me what to believe, it is my own. God's word should be GOD'S WORD. Not God's word, as translated by Joe Shmo.

For those that don't believe the bible changes version to version, just do an internet search, you will see.
(I know it seems hard to believe, that in this day and age some people still do not know this.)
These are just my opinions. Take it all with a large grain of salt.:uhoh:

Nice post! And yep you are very correct on the different versions. It also surprises me that most people don't know this either. Almost everyone seems to think the King James version is the best or most accurate one. However, there are many things wrong/inaccurate in that version.
 
Isn't intellectual interpretation of the Bible (and of our surroundings) what makes us human? Yes, I believe many people interpret the Bible to achieve their ends, good or bad. I guess it just rankles me when others try to impose their views on me. If they want an intellectual, nonemotional discussion that is fine. But I shy away from others seeing things in black and white, when clearly the world is in all shades of color. What gives anyone the right to tell me what to believe?

The only crime I can see is in not thinking about other faucets of the situation before one acts. Hate crimes are high on that list.
 
I guess it just rankles me when others try to impose their views on me.

I guess that is the gist of this thread.
Plus I just like when someone can use a word like "rankles".
Cool note:The word rankles has its origins in the word "snake".
 
To the OP...

I actually lived behind Satanists for 4 years and the only animals they had were goats, chickens and a dog. Oddly enough the goats never seemed to hang around long;). Snakes never played a part in any of the rituals I saw (as I peaked through the blinds and hoped they couldn't see me spying on them). But I guess I could be wrong...
 
To the OP...

I actually lived behind Satanists for 4 years and the only animals they had were goats, chickens and a dog. Oddly enough the goats never seemed to hang around long;). Snakes never played a part in any of the rituals I saw (as I peaked through the blinds and hoped they couldn't see me spying on them). But I guess I could be wrong...

Chickens and goats are tasty, maybe they were food?
 
So if I would ask you if you were a religious person, you would say no?

No I would say I am part of the religion of Christianity(because I am) but I would explain how my God is best friend and my Father. Just saying I'm religious doesn't give justice to what I have. Sorry for the late response
 
I saw the guy again yesterday. He really is insane. He, for some reason, had a cross with him and when I walked in he started chanting, backed out of the store all while holding the cross toward me. CREEPY!!!
 
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