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Lavender said:
Ok why don't somebody jump on that. Take a monkey, put in hmmm let's byu because monkey's are probably already poligamists any way. Any way put a monkey in a cage at byu every day. At least by the time we are 80 or 90 years old it should be saying mama and dada.
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That's not how evolution works and you know it. I'm trying to make points based on actual things, you're just saying crazy things now..
 
Here's my opinion on Christianity, Christians say that god is watching over them and will protect them, but when they cross the street they still look both ways. This proves that they have a false sense of faith. They don't believe themselves when they say god protects them, because they still have to look both ways. If they were really representative of their faith they would allow god to just stop the semi trucks!
 
If they could have they would've locked him in a mental facility 2000+ years ago. He said, he could ask Hid father if He wanted to and the Father would sen 12 legions of angels to defeat His enemies. In case you havn't heard He has a purpose and a plan to save HIS people from there sins. That's why He was born of virgin without the taint of sinful man in His flesh, lived a sinless life in the stead of His people, scorned and beaten for His people, died for His people, suffered in hell for a short time for His people and now has risen and sits at the right hand of the Father on high ruling and reigning weather you realize it or not.
 
I like Buddhism, they respect other religions. Christians (or catholics i don't know what's the difference) say to love your neighbors but some of them wish you to hell if you don't agree with them.
 
Lavender said:
If they could have they would've locked him in a mental facility 2000+ years ago. He said, he could ask Hid father if He wanted to and the Father would sen 12 legions of angels to defeat His enemies. In case you havn't heard He has a purpose and a plan to save HIS people from there sins. That's why He was born of virgin without the taint of sinful man in His flesh, lived a sinless life in the stead of His people, scorned and beaten for His people, died for His people, suffered in hell for a short time for His people and now has risen and sits at the right hand of the Father on high ruling and reigning weather you realize it or not.
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They didn't have mental facilities 2000 years ago. They thought smoking was healthy not so long ago. You learn how the weather works in school. Give me proof of angels or God, i just gave you some convincing proof that could be the work of evolution, you give me quotes from an old book.
 
Gotta love it when people pick and choose what Bible quotes to take literally, and don't even know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're".
 
Lavender said:
Hey budduah how's that self control going lol.
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You're the one that's shoving Christianity down everybody's throat here... You say your proof and we give ours. Everyone who isn't biased will say ours is more convincing and you know it so you try to mock us with saying crazy things. I actual feel sorry for you, you're so insecure about your religion. Somebody who truly believes doesn't care what others think.
 
I care somewhat what people think because the bible teaches compassion. But, I have marching orders to spread the word. I don't have orders to convert that is something I cannot do. So having clear instruction that is what I am doing. Unlike my arminian "Christian" friends who think they can convert people if the they can convince the to repeat a mechanical prayer.
 
Lavender said:
I care somewhat what people think because the bible teaches compassion. But, I have marching orders to spread the word. I don't have orders to convert that is something I cannot do. So having clear instruction that is what I am doing. Unlike my arminian "Christian" friends who think they can convert people if the they can convince the to repeat a mechanical prayer.
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Id God is that almighty why does he had to send his son to get killed so forgive our sins? Someone that's almighty could just forgive our sins.
Historical evidence has showed us that Jesus didn't die on a cross and he sure didn't have to carry one. The pole was kept in the ground and a person on an other pole was put on it, so it would make a T not a cross. Why should i believe a religion that can't even get the way their prophet died right?

And good manner teaches you to not shove it down everybody's throat. Keep your religion in your home and church but not on a public forum. From now on every time i see you going on about Christianity i will talk about the flying spaghetti monster (which is an actual relegion)
If i see you quote the bible i will quote a random book.
 
Not for sure about all the minor details of the cross that may or may not be lost in translation. And I don't doubt that you take the records of ungodly historians and archeologists who have a humanist slant weather you admit it or not. But for people who have been converted by the Holy Spirit of God know the truth and believe the God breathed word. Christians and non Christians (who entertain the bible) realize the biblical account that God is not going to save every one. Also He is not going to deliver every on from their ignorance. But, Christians still have the mandate to spread the word. Pagans viewed Christians as crazy then and pagans still do now it is no suprise to me. Christ warns of it so why should I be alarmed by the response of those opposed to the very One who gives them life.
 
Not opposed to Him.....
You, however are starting to get on my nerves....

Alienating people will not save them...
 
Could've swore I covered this, but I nor any other mortal has the ability or power to save a soul. It is up to God alone. So weather we speak with sugar and honey or salt (which is biblical) God does the saving and/or reprobating not us.
 
Shiari said:
Actually, evolution and the beginnings of speciation have been observed. And we have, in the veterinary field, seen a new "species" emerge. Species is in quotes there for two reasons: one, viruses are technically not 'alive'. and two, we don't know exactly which strain it mutated from.

And that is the parvovirus that infects dogs. It likely either came from a type that infects cats (98% identical), or one that infects raccoons and foxes. The cat one is more likely.

This virus developed a mutation that made it different enough to jump hosts, and because dogs had no exposure to this before the 1970s, they are decimated by it. Untreated, 9 out of 10 dogs die of it.

Other examples: bacteria that can eat nylon and rubber and paint. They evolved that trait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

A particularly important bit from the above article:
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I don't think anyone contests the fact that adaptation of species occurs. Between that and linking animals that lived millions of years ago to animals today though is assumption based on current facts and the fact that it happens before our eyes on a smaller scale.... we see changes, yes, but they are not rapid, and not as dramatic as the ones that occurred over such a long period of time.

You still can't say without a shadow of a doubt that human beings originated from apes. It's logical, but you will forever be limited somewhat when studying fossils of organisms that no longer exist.... and we have yet to uncover every single fossil out there.

We also have subjective views on things... a person of faith will see something as a miracle and consider it a proof of God's existence, whilest an Atheist will say that there's nothing divine about it- just a chain of unlikely events. You simply can't win or lose in such an argument... it boils down to how a person wishes to see the world... and quite frankly, even IF you believe that person is delusional, said faith makes him happy... no reason to deprive it of him as long as he doesn't do what the OP is endlessly doing(used the ignore option though)
 
Kokopelli said:
I don't think anyone contests the fact that adaptation of species occurs. Between that and linking animals that lived millions of years ago to animals today though is assumption based on current facts and the fact that it happens before our eyes on a smaller scale.... we see changes, yes, but they are not rapid, and not as dramatic as the ones that occurred over such a long period of time.

You still can't say without a shadow of a doubt that human beings originated from apes. It's logical, but you will forever be limited somewhat when studying fossils of organisms that no longer exist.... and we have yet to uncover every single fossil out there.

We also have subjective views on things... a person of faith will see something as a miracle and consider it a proof of God's existence, whilest an Atheist will say that there's nothing divine about it- just a chain of unlikely events. You simply can't win or lose in such an argument... it boils down to how a person wishes to see the world... and quite frankly, even IF you believe that person is delusional, said faith makes him happy... no reason to deprive it of him as long as he doesn't do what the OP is endlessly doing(used the ignore option though)
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Actually if you see the skulls of the ancient ape specie where the human is thought to decent from and all the skulls in between it's not such an huge change between each skull. It's not like there is one skull from an ape and our current skull. Every skull (and skeleton) is the result of an adaptation.

Just a question to people who know the bible, is there a story of all of humanity originating from adam and eve or am i wrong here? Just trying to remember and it annoys me if i can't remember something that is stuck in my head.
 
Lavender said:
I care somewhat what people think because the bible teaches compassion. But, I have marching orders to spread the word. I don't have orders to convert that is something I cannot do. So having clear instruction that is what I am doing. Unlike my arminian "Christian" friends who think they can convert people if the they can convince the to repeat a mechanical prayer.
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That may be, but how about I give you my own marching orders?

You are purposely trying to cause conflict on this site now. That appears to be the only reason you still hang around here. I don't have any problem with anyone discussing religion, EXCEPT for you, here on this site.

So it will cease. NOW. Any further posts by you on this topic will be an implied acceptance on your part of marching orders right out of the door here.

And if you attempt to blow THIS up into another conflict, then THAT will get you marched out of here as well.

You've had your chance to fit in here. It's now or never.
 
I just keep having this vision in my mind of the Lord with his head in his hands absolutely horrified that he is being represented by this person, in this manner......
 
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