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can anyone verify

captaincaveman

captaincaveman

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can antone verify this motley for me, the first pic is close to its colour and its really tiny(the pic makes it look grown on, but not much more than a hatchling)

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Caramel motley. I HIGHLY doubt that animal is homo hypo for 2 reasons, the brown colouration is far too dark to be homo hypo, and secondly amber motleys are few and far between in the UK!

Remember motley sometimes casts a hypo effect on the colour of the snake. I still say caramot!
 
Tula_Montage said:
Caramel motley. I HIGHLY doubt that animal is homo hypo for 2 reasons, the brown colouration is far too dark to be homo hypo, and secondly amber motleys are few and far between in the UK!

Remember motley sometimes casts a hypo effect on the colour of the snake. I still say caramot!
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I think I'd agree with the car mot opinion.

Amber mots from my experience, are much much lighter. Here's an example:
 

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Many caramel motleys are imported each year, and unless you payed close to £300 for it, its not an amber motley.
 
Could this snake's hets be greatly affecting how light it is? For example, maybe it's het amel...
I'm just having a hard time convincing myself that that's a Caramel mot. Mine is so much darker, the browns just seem muddier and deeper. My Caramel mot is not het for amel or anything else though...
 
just to confuse things heres some pics in my hand lol, though it is slightly darker than these(but lighter than the other pics)

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Im 99% sure amber motley, ive seen both in the flesh and the variation is great, not seen a caramel motley paler than that though
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Breeding trials.. Breed it to hypo...

Male is, Amber, Motley
Female is, Hypomelanistic

Offspring are predicted to be...
100.00%, Hypomelanistic, Het for Caramel, Het for Motley


If you get nothing buy hypos, it is an amber.. There is such a variation in colouration in all corns I would not be suprised if its just a caramel.. On the other hand I would not be overly excited to find out it is an amber eithier, no offense, but obviously Elle can not prove it as it is not her animal, so the onus comes upon the owner at the moment.. Believe me, at first I was not going to let Elle off so easily until of course I seen that animal was imported and not breed in and to the UK...

Off note, I like your animal, it is a very nice looking animal, which I think so provide you with a source of pride in the years to come..

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
lovely snake, But as said above, only breeding to a known hypo will show if it's mber or caramel.
( :-offtopic , how come this is being turned into a widdling up the wall contest, over someone else's snake? Bad form, what?)
 
Gee, this has become quite the debate, heh? O.K., despite all the debating, amber motley is my story (still), and I'm stickin' to it.
However, I have a thought to throw into the mix. Has anyone thought of ultracaramel motley? After all, an ultracaramel motley would appear to be a "light" colored caramel motley, which is what several of you have described. Just a thought, anyone agree?
 
it was imported as an amber motley, the price isnt imported though elle to be honest... mistakes happen, and i think this may be one.
i will be honest, i havent seen an amber motley in the flesh, but having had many caramels, it looks nothing like any i have, and i do have some rather light ones.
also this is female, that may have an effect, if it was male i'm sure you would see a more obvious amber there.
i go for amber motley, i know some experienced people here have said caramel, but i guess its all opinions.
 
captaincaveman said:
can anyone verify this motley for me, the first pic is close to its colour and its really tiny(the pic makes it look grown on, but not much more than a hatchling)
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While my first thought was "Amber Motley", I changed my mind. If the snake was not Motley, the color would be right for Amber. Motley, however, has a diluting effect, and a true Amber Motley should be lighter than an ordinary Amber. I think the snake is a Caramel Motley.
 
cheers guys, didn't mean to cause a heated debate lol, as its a female, im gonna have to wait that bit longer to prove it out, could it become more obvious as it grows?
 
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