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Obama Youth?

Cornsnake124 said:
but did he say that obama was hitler by saying obama youth?

NO.
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The little one with the canned rhetoric, juvenile logic and terrible grammar is back. I'm going to give you some sound advice, take the cotton out of your ears and put it into your mouth. You don't know what you don't know yet and go finish your homework.

ps) I was actually given this same advice before and used it!
 
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jazzgeek said:
Then why did you even ask, :dunce: ???


Dismissed.


Dale
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referring to the second part of your statement and the video. Not referring to your "simple refutation" statement there sweetpea. That is still the bugger out there as there was nothing to refute ;) Crawl back under your bridge big guy...
 
Pruddock said:
I don't think your post was necessary as I was asking him a question.
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I don't give one whit whether you think my post was "necessary" or not. This is a forum wherein outside commentary has be allowed and encouraged since I joined.

Who are you to determine the necessity of comments here?


Pruddock said:
I also don't think the comment is relevant in hindsight as Mike has SAID that he never said Obama was Hitler. Thus, he did come out and address it.
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Given that my response was addressing the "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?" meme referenced by Nova_C, and had nothing to do with Mike's claim regarding Hitler...unless you're taking into account the faulty logic of Cornsnake124 (whom, if that's the case, you should have cited instead of Mike, as that was who Nova addressed), you truly are clueless here.

Please, Skippy, continue showing your place in this forum with those stellar cognitive processes. It's like warming up for a tennis match, as you get smacked into the wall and just keep bouncing back.

Dale
 
Pruddock said:
referring to the second part of your statement and the video. Not referring to your "simple refutation" statement there sweetpea.
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How sad. I'd wager that even Cornsnake124 had the mental capacity to understand that the "second part of my statement and the video" were evidence of the refutation.

I was intending to mock you, but given your lack of understanding, I'll just pity you.


Dale
 
Pruddock said:
Mike,

I have to admit that I don't think you believe or have said that Obama is Hitler
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To quote another president:
“That depends on what your definition of "is" is”

Let's be more than honest for a second, is there really any doubt that the intention is the same?
 
jazzgeek said:
How sad. I'd wager that even Cornsnake124 had the mental capacity to understand that the "second part of my statement and the video" were evidence of the refutation.

I was intending to mock you, but given your lack of understanding, I'll just pity you.


Dale
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lol you crack me up man. :cool:

See, this time you fell into my trap. My entire goal here was to see if I could trap you into a conversation that you really had no need to be in but wanted to just push a button here or there because you and I disagree on just about everything. I succeeded, but not only did you prove to try and troll, but continued to the point where you actually allowed an online forum post to get under your skin. Mission accomplished, You've just been Daled :cool:
 
ForkedTung said:
To quote another president:
“That depends on what your definition of "is" is”

Let's be more than honest for a second, is there really any doubt that the intention is the same?
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That's a very good point Kyle. I understand that there was an insinuation based on the original statement. I also made that full statement because I think that Mike was trying to present the information in a form that would start a heated debate on a, at the time, current subject. To his credit, he completed the goal successfully as we're quite a few posts in and still going. I agree with you though. I do believe that on this forum we like to say that we didn't use the EXACT wording, but elude to certain facts with phrases and frames of reference that allow one to conjure up the true intentions of the post. I know I'm as guilty as anybody of doing so, as I'm sure if I had the time or cared enough that I could pull a post from most people involved in this thread I could prove everybody else has done at sometime too. So, I agree with you again. (we're starting to get along pretty well man ;) )
 
Pruddock said:
lol you crack me up man. :cool:

See, this time you fell into my trap. My entire goal here was to see if I could trap you into a conversation that you really had no need to be in but wanted to just push a button here or there because you and I disagree on just about everything. I succeeded, but not only did you prove to try and troll, but continued to the point where you actually allowed an online forum post to get under your skin. Mission accomplished, You've just been Daled :cool:
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Actually, it's known as being "CAV'd". The passive/aggressive "A-HA! I GOTCHA!!" is a tired, old, hackneyed, and feeble attempt to cover one's ass.

Likewise, just like Gary in the referenced thread, you've resorted to the old lawyer's maxim: "When the law is against you, argue the facts. When the facts are against you, argue the law."

And all you've done is put yourself on a par with this man-child:




Yeah, "you meant to do that". And we're all buying it. Really.

:rolleyes:


Dale
 
jazzgeek said:
I don't give one whit whether you think my post was "necessary" or not. This is a forum wherein outside commentary has be allowed and encouraged since I joined.

Who are you to determine the necessity of comments here?




Given that my response was addressing the "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?" meme referenced by Nova_C, and had nothing to do with Mike's claim regarding Hitler...unless you're taking into account the faulty logic of Cornsnake124 (whom, if that's the case, you should have cited instead of Mike, as that was who Nova addressed), you truly are clueless here.

Please, Skippy, continue showing your place in this forum with those stellar cognitive processes. It's like warming up for a tennis match, as you get smacked into the wall and just keep bouncing back.

Dale
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Just for fun lets go back and address your points here...

I used the term necessary because you have a knack/rep on here for making comments that are completely unnecessary and, quite frankly, trolling in nature. By using this term I was insinuating you like to be a troll to those you don't like, your mental capacity didn't register that blip on the radar.

I understand you're referring to Nova's post, why you would consider otherwise I haven't the slightest unless you were just trying to rile me up. It, unfortunately for you, takes a lot more than an internet forum to get me going. Sorry. Finally, I made the comment in reference to Mike because of the quote Nova made referenced him indirectly. Corn used "faulty logic" sure but it still didn't matter because Mike had already made the statement that he doesn't think Obama is Hitler, Nova then made this statement. So, I chose to just go ahead and reference Mike to show that even though Corn's statement may not have been the best way to put it, he was still ultimately correct. See, contrary to your belief I CAN read and did so accordingly. If you look at the post Nova decided to bring up the Beck statement addressing his "hypocrisy" in reference to his failure to deny a false statement. I also understood this you fool. All I asked was if he was referring to the falsified document that was also used in the Duke rape case. This is where you decided to crawl out from under your bridge and misread a question. You were actually the one here who didn't understand what was happening in the first place.

This was when I decided to take it upon myself to draw you out and show that you do nothing more than attack individuals on this forum for no other reason than to make yourself feel better about the fact that your a lonely old guy sitting behind his computer night after night. Once again, mission accomplished.

Skippy... ha, I like that. I think I'll start using it from now on. I appreciate the new nickname Jazz. Feel free to keep posting man. I've had my fun with you and now you bore me. Time to go back to earning the money to pay off that college edumacation my stupidhead is getin ;) I would love to see you attempt to accomplish the mental obstacles I take on on a daily basis my friend ;)

Skippy
 
My post wasn't about a direct comparison between Beck's penchant for 'non-accusations' and Mike's OP, but more along the lines with the curious habit of people who use weasel words when they want to libel someone while leaving themselves an 'out' to play victim.

Honestly, Obama has a lot of real things to criticize him on without having to Godwin the debate.

Mike, writing an OP where you talk about 'Obama Youth' and bring up all the 'similarities' Obama has with Hitler, and then saying "But I didn't actually say he was Hitler," is pretty weak. Grow a pair and either mean what you say or shut the hell up. There's enough white noise in this debate without contributing to it.
 
Also, Pruddock, your infantile attempt to dismiss Jazzgeek's posts by playing like you're stringing him along is about as transparent as glass. Jazz is very adept at breaking someone's argument down to it's ridiculous core and now that he's done it to you, you make like you expected it all along.

About here is where I'd place the :rolleyes: emoticon.
 
jazzgeek said:
Actually, it's known as being "CAV'd". The passive/aggressive "A-HA! I GOTCHA!!" is a tired, old, hackneyed, and feeble attempt to cover one's ass.

Likewise, just like Gary in the referenced thread, you've resorted to the old lawyer's maxim: "When the law is against you, argue the facts. When the facts are against you, argue the law."

And all you've done is put yourself on a par with this man-child:




Yeah, "you meant to do that". And we're all buying it. Really.

:rolleyes:


Dale
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So its all well in good if you "trap me" as you did in another thread, but if I do the same it becomes me covering my tracks? Hypocrisy thy name is...
 
Nova_C said:
Also, Pruddock, your infantile attempt to dismiss Jazzgeek's posts by playing like you're stringing him along is about as transparent as glass. Jazz is very adept at breaking someone's argument down to it's ridiculous core and now that he's done it to you, you make like you expected it all along.

About here is where I'd place the :rolleyes: emoticon.
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Where did he break my argument down to its ridiculous core? I never made an argument, I merely asked a question. It was when he chimed in that I decided, and explictly told others, that I was going to try and get Dale to post that he was in fact just making a post to be a troll as he often does. It worked... Whether or not you would like to believe that is moot.

Skippy
 
tyflier said:
Hey PAton...if you have to explain it...it just wasn't funny...
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Congrats, even when its there for you you can't spell it...

You going to address my post about your points and the unfounded junk you continue to post? This will be probably the third or fourth time I've addressed the fact that you post statistics and "facts" without any documentation or foundation and you have NEVER addressed them. I guess its easier to just come up with the witty comments like the one above though :cool:

Skippy
 
tyflier said:
Hey, Mike...the bottom line...in your opening post of this thread, you "implied" in the title that Obama was comparable to Hitler, and later one, made the bold comparison, in plain writing, that there were a lot of "similarities". Please...educate me, and explain to me how, precisely, Obama being elecvted President of the U.S. in a free Democratic society, and using the powers that are granted him by the Constitution to initiate change through the proper channels, is even remotely, in any way, shape, or form, like or comparable to Hitler, or the Rise of Nazi Germany. If you can succinctly and without bias point that connection out to me, I will poitely and respectfully bow out of this and every other "political debate" you participate in.
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Well for starters, they had a very similar "rise to power". Both were "community organizers" before their political careers began.
Obviously both are socialists.
Both had very questionable friends(like William Ayers, Reverend Wright and Tony Rezko, to name a few) who assisted them in their rise to power, friends that today are forgotten.
Hitler created a Gestapo, a national police force that would crack down on a dis-armed and defenseless population at will. Obama called for a national police force. He said: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." What is the purpose of this "civilian national security force"?
Lets not forget the trace/occult-like following both share.
Then there are the speeches, which help account for the following.
The empty promises.
Both were involved in the "green movement" of the time.

I still say that the number of similarities is spooky.
 
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