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President May be in Trouble

Nova_C said:
As you've said, history does repeat itself.

The great depression and the dustbowl did not end the US. The recovery had started in much of the world, including the US, though we've already had this discussion.

I honestly don't comprehend the doomsaying as a factor of the election. One man in Florida committed suicide because Obama won. Another threatened to attack the president while being questioned by the Secret Service. This is getting out of hand. There isn't a great apocalypse coming for the American people.

You don't need to stockpile guns, the Democrats have shown no interest in changing gun laws. You don't need to stock up on bottled water and canned goods, the government isn't going to collapse. You don't need to accuse others of being dependent and delusional. The social safety net has not collapsed the economies of the countries it has been in place for generations. Why is there this perception that Americans are worse people, are stupider people than anyone else?
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I would like to know that myself.
 
Holly12 said:
I do pay bills rent utilities Car payment no because I do not drive because of the meds Iam on. And my SS I get alot and I have VA so put that all in one alot of money plus me working part time I make out really well.
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Holly12 said:
WRONG! I don't get any food stamps food stamps are so lame Iam not that poor.
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So pretty much I work 55 hours a week at my business 6 days a week, and spend Sundays vending at a flea market and can barely make it. I pay a butt load of taxes for my trouble.....and Holly "makes out really well" by working part time and collecting money that other people earned.

Is something wrong here?
 
That is America, Beth!

Something is seriously wrong.

As far as the gun laws go, they are pushing for another ban like the one under Clinton.
 
Holly12 said:
Wow no need to amke fun of me because whtever goes around will come right back at ya. :rolleyes:
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Holly12 said:
LOL this is getting too funny now.
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If I really thought this were a joke I'ld be laughing.

starsevol said:
So pretty much I work 55 hours a week at my business 6 days a week, and spend Sundays vending at a flea market and can barely make it. I pay a butt load of taxes for my trouble.....and Holly "makes out really well" by working part time and collecting money that other people earned.

Is something wrong here?
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beautifullywild77 said:
That is America, Beth!

Something is seriously wrong.
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Yes the harder we work the more the other guy gets. Usually the one who has held no meaningful (earning wise) job or paid taxes. Taxes as in what the government keeps of your withhodling not your refund.
 
Not very many Rich.

Average wage of a military enlisted is about 40 grand a year. That is me being generous.
Average wage of a teacher is about the same depending on what her high qualified subjects are.
Average wage of a civilian with a education is way under 200,000. That is without a Ph.D.
 
Starsevol I earn VA and SS because I of my disability not because I want it I have the right too have VA and SS.
 
Holly12 said:
And guns should be ban not everyone should have a gun and I hope that the gun law passes.
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You don't like guns?
Don't get one.

But don't think that you can take away other people's constitutional right to own one.
Have you ever read the Constitution? Somehow, I don't think so.
 
Holly12 said:
And guns should be ban not everyone should have a gun and I hope that the gun law passes.
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Slow down there scooter. You want to take away my right to bear arms? Over my dead body. I have the right to defend my household. I carry a gun for a living and could not do my job without it. If a responsible person wants to own a gun let them. The bad guys will ALWAYS have guns, laws or not.

Methinks you might be eyeing the road of a troll.
 
BloodyBaroness said:
Slow down there scooter. You want to take away my right to bear arms? Over my dead body. I have the right to defend my household. I carry a gun for a living and could not do my job without it. If a responsible person wants to own a gun let them. The bad guys will ALWAYS have guns, laws or not.

Methinks you might be eyeing the road of a troll.
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Iam a troll? lol for saying I do not belive that guns should be ban because again not everyone is responsible when it comes to a gun. And I see that you are one of those pepole that got to have guns no matter if they are dangerous.
 
Holly12 said:
Starsevol I earn VA and SS because I of my disability not because I want it I have the right too have VA and SS.
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I am sorry but no, YOU don't earn it.
Your father earned the VA (and I wonder if that "inheritance" is taxed the way other inheritances are).
As far as SS, no, you didn't earn that either. I earned it, and people who work everyday full time earned it, but not you.

SS is taken out of people's paychecks every week, supposedly to be paid back to them when they retire. I have been paying into SS for decades and have never recieved one red cent from it. How much have you paid into SS?

You might need it maybe. But you didn't earn it.
And your "right" to other people's money will end when the government goes bust or when the people who take outnumber the people who are taken from, whatever comes first.
 
I'm just going to. Ask.
When a person or small business goes bankrupt, it seems that nobody dies or goes to prison generally, and then the people behind the bankruptcy have to wait 7 or 11 years or something like that before they are allowed to go bankrupt again.

So my question is hypothetical.

What happens when a nation goes bankrupt?
 
starsevol said:
I am sorry but no, YOU don't earn it.
Your father earned the VA (and I wonder if that "inheritance" is taxed the way other inheritances are.
As far as SS, no, you didn't earn that either. I earned it, and people who work everyday full time earned it, but not you.

You might need it maybe. But you didn't earn it.
And your "right" to other people's money will end when the government goes bust or when the people who take outnumber the people who are taken from, whatever comes first.
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Wow you know what? you are so mean and hateful to me and again I did earn it and you say you earn it? no you do not earn a darn thing in my opinion.
 
Holly12 said:
And guns should be ban not everyone should have a gun and I hope that the gun law passes.
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Do you even understand the Constitution and the rights it grants Americans? Do you understand the consequences to be had if they take away our rights as Americans?

Please excuse me, but who are you to say who can and can not own a gun? It is my constitutional right to own one. If they take away one right, it will open the door to take away more.
 
Holly12 said:
Iam a troll? lol for saying I do not belive that guns should be ban because again not everyone is responsible when it comes to a gun. And I see that you are one of those pepole that got to have guns no matter if they are dangerous.
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Wow, you can tell if a person is responsible just by their post.

I own several guns. I have been around them all my life. I have raised my children around them. My kids go through hunter's/gun safety class when they turn 13. It is right that was given to me by the forefathers and all those that have fought, died, suffered for this country. The ones that give an oath to protect the constitution.
 
beautifullywild77 said:
Do you even understand the Constitution and the rights it grants Americans? Do you understand the consequences to be had if they take away our rights as Americans?

Please excuse me, but who are you to say who can and can not own a gun? It is my constitutional right to own one. If they take away one right, it will open the door to take away more.
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Let's say someone who is not fit to have a gun someone who just got out of prison let me ask you this should they be aloud to have a gun?.
 
dave partington said:
I'm just going to. Ask.
When a person or small business goes bankrupt, it seems that nobody dies or goes to prison generally, and then the people behind the bankruptcy have to wait 7 or 11 years or something like that before they are allowed to go bankrupt again.

So my question is hypothetical.

What happens when a nation goes bankrupt?
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I don't know but I think it won't be too long before we find out....


Holly12 said:
Wow you know what? you are so mean and hateful to me and again I did earn it and you say you earn it? no you do not earn a darn thing in my opinion.
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Sorry but no, being born disabled is a sad thing but being disabled does not mean the world has to pay your way. If you can work part time, why can't you work full time and become a taxpayer?
I earn it because I pay taxes. I pay into SS, you don't pay into SS.
So tell me again how you earn your money and I don't?
 
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