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President May be in Trouble

And that is the sad part!!!! Just shows that we aren't as smart as we would like to think if nothing has changed since we were living in caves!!!!

What about war free countries? What's wrong with them? Why aren't they starting wars and chaos if its what we do best.

Those countries still have issues with violence, murders, and theft. They still need police and I bet the do keep some amount of military on duty, just in case.

It's not about being smart. Animals steal stuff from each other and fight for territory all the time. It has nothing to do with being gifted with higher intelligence. It's basic nature.
 
I wish war wasn't needed! I am sure there are a lot of people who would wave that magic wand and make the world a paradise on earth.

But sadly the reality of the world is what it is...
 
OK - this will probably be a controversial idea, but it seems pretty logical.

Unfortunately, I suspect that there may be an evolutionary advantage in any species having to struggle against both the elements and against their own conspecifics. It is very common in many species for males (and occasionally females) to combat each other for better feeding areas, nesting areas, access to mates, etc. If earth was truly a stress free paradise, there would be no selective pressure for the "survival of the fittest". The least physically and mentally able animals or humans could pass on their genes as easily as those best able to use available resources to provide for the strongest offspring to survive.

Although some do not believe in evolution over the long term, I think most will agree that animals able to survive in difficult climates or scarce resource areas are the most likely to pass on genes that will also enhance survival rates under those same conditions.

I know we are different than deer and other animals because we tend to think and plan more. And I am certainly NOT advocating for war, disease, and competing for scarce resources as a way to better the human race. BUT - if you think about it logically, we may be hard wired for competitiveness, aggressiveness, and a certain amount of greed for that very reason, whether we like it or not. If that is true, we can only manage those traits, not eliminate them.
 
OK - this will probably be a controversial idea, but it seems pretty logical.

Unfortunately, I suspect that there may be an evolutionary advantage in any species having to struggle against both the elements and against their own conspecifics. It is very common in many species for males (and occasionally females) to combat each other for better feeding areas, nesting areas, access to mates, etc. If earth was truly a stress free paradise, there would be no selective pressure for the "survival of the fittest". The least physically and mentally able animals or humans could pass on their genes as easily as those best able to use available resources to provide for the strongest offspring to survive.

Although some do not believe in evolution over the long term, I think most will agree that animals able to survive in difficult climates or scarce resource areas are the most likely to pass on genes that will also enhance survival rates under those same conditions.

I know we are different than deer and other animals because we tend to think and plan more. And I am certainly NOT advocating for war, disease, and competing for scarce resources as a way to better the human race. BUT - if you think about it logically, we may be hard wired for competitiveness, aggressiveness, and a certain amount of greed for that very reason, whether we like it or not. If that is true, we can only manage those traits, not eliminate them.

I agree Kathy, very well said.
 
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Beth and Autumn, I hate to do it but I have to call Godwin's law on you both. Unfortunately you're now no longer allowed to post in this thread. (Autumn is secretly happy dancing to the hamster dance at work)

Next time, ladies, please come prepared with a better defense to this peace trolls terrible offense.

:smash:
 
It was relevant because Bonkers lives in Austria!

The Godwin's law is ridiculous, it was made up by one person. We taking about history of the world's, Hitler and the Nazi party are a big part of it!
 
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Beth and Autumn, I hate to do it but I have to call Godwin's law on you both. Unfortunately you're now no longer allowed to post in this thread. (Autumn is secretly happy dancing to the hamster dance at work)

Next time, ladies, please come prepared with a better defense to this peace trolls terrible offense.

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Sorry love, it's not Godwin's Law per se, when you are speaking in a historical reference. There was a previous thread in which the mention of Nazi invoked a strong emotional response from the poster we were discussing war with. The Nazi party was referenced to draw similarities between our emotional response and hers toward a hot button issues. She lives in Austria and a comparison basis was needed.

Now if I were to call you a Godwin's Law Nazi for calling Godwin's Law in a situation were it is not contextually applicable, then I just divided by zero.

Bam! My work here is done.
 
I'll just be over here in the corner coloring outside the lines and all over your new paint job in the kitchen. You did this to yourself, Autumn.
 
I'll just be over here in the corner coloring outside the lines and all over your new paint job in the kitchen. You did this to yourself, Autumn.

Hey man, don't make me get Onyx after you. Actually scratch that, he would only help you.

I'll just beat you to death with my circular logic.
 
If you're going to Spock me to death, could you at least give me one last pinch for old time's sake? ;)

Done.

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