Scale less Corns anyone?

[Urban_M86]

I cant see the pics, quick question i feel like scale less corn wil be in pain at all time since they dont have their scales to protect them, do they feel pain?

 

[Ssthisto]

They would feel pain if they were cut or hurt like any other snake.

But not having scales doesn't mean they'll ALWAYS and automatically be in pain, any more than shaving your head would mean that your bare scalp would automatically be in pain.

I would probably be more careful about how I set up their enclosures - although they'd have rough things for shedding, I would be ensuring that any branches or rocks didn't have anything even a little sharp.

 

[Ssthisto]

Hmm, The greatest shame in my view is that original pure* corn that carried the gene couldn't have been bred to another pure* corn to create a clutch of pure* corn poss hets.

*pureness being relative...

Did the original pair produce more than the one mutant hatchling, then? What I read wasn't amazingly clear on it (congratulations, Google French translation) - whether the current line of scaleless descended from one original animal or from multiples out of the same founding pair.

Because if there was only EVER one mutant hatchling from that pair, it's a pretty good bet it was a point mutation instead of two animals that coincidentally both happened to be het for a scaleless mutation AND that the scaleless mutation they were het for happened to be on the same gene locus for both animals.

Given how many hairless genes there are in mice and rats, it's possible to cross two completely naked animals and get all normally-furred offspring, for example.

 

[torsten]

I believe the original pair produced Scaleless hatchlings on multiple consecutive years.

 

[Vinman]

does anyone have a link with some pics

 

[Roy Munson]

Googled it:

http://www.reptilegeeks.com/user/blogs/view/name_Digital_Herper/id_207/title_Scaleless-Corn/

 

[Vinman]

Googled it:

http://www.reptilegeeks.com/user/blogs/view/name_Digital_Herper/id_207/title_Scaleless-Corn/

Thanx Dean,I love it, it is a cool looking snake

 

[lajes]

Sry but i don´t like that kinda "godlike" breeding.
Haven´t seen one in real up to now and hope
that there will be no market for it!
Can´t realy imagine that these poor creatures
are healthy and didn´t have any problems.

 

[mike17l]

Sry but i don´t like that kinda "godlike" breeding.
Haven´t seen one in real up to now and hope
that there will be no market for it!
Can´t realy imagine that these poor creatures
are healthy and didn´t have any problems.

Were you talking about amels?

 

[lajes]

Amel? no talking bout the topic "scaleless corns"
Ans btw it´s the same with stargazing ones why
breedin these animals??

 

[mike17l]

Amel? no talking bout the topic "scaleless corns"
Ans btw it´s the same with stargazing ones why
breedin these animals??

Oh, well I think that amels are an abomination and in pain all the time. I thought we were agreeing, oh well. The scaleless on the other hand, I have no problem with. But those poor amels, the light hurts their eyes, and they cannot see well, and the must be suffering. I mean, surely the lack of melanin must have adverse conditions associated with it.

 

[*salAMANDA88*]

It may look cool colorwise....and I'm going to be honest with my opinions here....
But I'm sorry IMO I don't really see the point or need for naked animals..(scaleless/ Furless)..I think its actually a really stupid idea to even consider breeding these animals. I have no desire to own such an animal let alone support the idea of breeding them..
I think people should be more focused on breeding more efficient designer morphs...
JMO.



~~'Manda

 

[snakemom1961]

It may look cool colorwise....and I'm going to be honest with my opinions here....
But I'm sorry IMO I don't really see the point or need for naked animals..(scaleless/ Furless)..I think its actually a really stupid idea to even consider breeding these animals. I have no desire to own such an animal let alone support the idea of breeding them..
I think people should be more focused on breeding more efficient designer morphs...
JMO.



~~'Manda

I'm unable to rep you today because I've given to much out. I too will not own an animal that is produced against it's intended purpose. Snakes were created with scales for a reason. Dogs and cats were originally created with fur for a reason. To purposely breed away from their intended purpose to me is unethical.

 

[*salAMANDA88*]

I'm unable to rep you today because I've given to much out. I too will not own an animal that is produced against it's intended purpose. Snakes were created with scales for a reason. Dogs and cats were originally created with fur for a reason. To purposely breed away from their intended purpose to me is unethical.

Not only unethical..but just pointless...it serves no real purpose, and only weakens the population...I would rather have a strong, beautiful "ordinary" snake..than one who is genetically modified to such a point just to please your eyes(which I still think nakeds are pretty ugly)...that in turn being genetically inferior..and infectious..if the animal breaks out and breeds with wild species..gross..

Snakes were created with scales for a reason..

Right..Playing with the colors and Morphs of a snake is one thing..But that is rediculous..:nope:


~~'Manda

 

[lajes]

True True n True
And i can´t realy imagine that an amel realy got pain
only of his red eyes that they can`t look very well causin the lacking pigments
ok but don´t think an amel is a point for justificate a breeding like this!

 

[mike17l]

I'm unable to rep you today because I've given to much out. I too will not own an animal that is produced against it's intended purpose. Snakes were created with scales for a reason. Dogs and cats were originally created with fur for a reason. To purposely breed away from their intended purpose to me is unethical.

Snakes were "originally created" with melanin for a reason. To purposely breed away from melanin's intended purpose to me is unethical.

 

[Pruddock]

I think his point was that people are assuming automatically that the scale less animals will be in pain because they're scale less. He's being sarcastic based on a true disorder that occurs with the lack of melanin in order to make a point about people referencing an emotion they have no idea of judging.

 

[mike17l]

Not only unethical..but just pointless...it serves no real purpose, and only weakens the population...I would rather have a strong, beautiful "ordinary" snake..than one who is genetically modified to such a point just to please your eyes(which I still think nakeds are pretty ugly)...that in turn being genetically inferior..and infectious..if the animal breaks out and breeds with wild species..gross..

Can you imagine if an amel, or God forbid a blood red broke out and breed with wild species. OMG, it would be horrific. I mean amels and bloods, and sunkisseds, and aners, and hypos and stripes, and every other color and/or pattern morph only pleases the eyes, they do nothing to strengthen the gene pool of the wild or captive population.

 

[mike17l]

And i can´t realy imagine that an amel realy got pain
only of his red eyes that they can`t look very well causin the lacking pigments
ok but don´t think an amel is a point for justificate a breeding like this!

Do you know that? Have you done the research to find out?

 

[snakemom1961]

Snakes were "originally created" with melanin for a reason. To purposely breed away from melanin's intended purpose to me is unethical.

Snakes were originally developed WITH scales for a reason. They were also developed with color for a reason, but I would imagine they could survive without melanin easier then without scales. I've seen nature programs with white(melanin)free animals surviving in the wild, but I've yet to see furless or scaleless animals surviving.
S0, yes, IMO, scaleless snakes are bred unethically, and I for one would not buy from a breeder who would purposely breed snakes to create such freaks of nature.