Why I Hate Hybrids - Controversial

[cka]

It goes against the laws of god and nature.

Hmmmm......nothing in what we are doing here with the keeping and breeding of our captive-bred corns has ANYTHING to do with so called laws "of God and nature"...or did i missed the sarcasm? (it happens)

 

[ultimuttone]

Well, tuna-scenting may not be unethical, but it is wrong. It goes against the laws of god and nature. No sir, I don't like it. Hope I never need to do it. :nope:

Don't knock it til you try it

BUT...there is a difference between tricking a hatchling into eating to save its life...and tricking one species to mate with another just because you want them to.

Not if you consider that the only reason to force them to live is that you want them to.In the natural course of things, these little ones would die.

 

[starsevol]

WELL yes that is true...but unnatural or not forcing a little one to live..in my eyes...is more ethical than forcing 2 to mate that wouldnt otherwise.
As an animal lover, I dont want to watch something starve itself to death. Forcing an animal to live benefits the animal.

But there is something about tricking animals to mate and create babies that can only benefit the breeders wallet.

 

[Roy Munson]

Hmmmm......nothing in what we are doing here with the keeping and breeding of our captive-bred corns has ANYTHING to do with so called laws "of God and nature"...or did i missed the sarcasm? (it happens)

Ha ha. Yeah, you missed the sarcasm. I knew I should have used a winky emoticon. I would absolutely employ the tuna-scenting method if necessary. From the success stories I've read, I'd try it before I'd mess around with an anole.

 

[Serpwidgets]

Not if you consider that the only reason to force them to live is that you want them to.In the natural course of things, these little ones would die.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.

No sir, I don't like it.

FLAMO!!!!!111

(Just remembered "mister horse" from Ren & Stimpy after about 12 years of not thinking about that...)

 

[cka]

lmao I thought so

 

[Serpwidgets]

Ha ha. Yeah, you missed the sarcasm. I knew I should have used a winky emoticon.

Ya, when in doubt, whip out the winky. :santa:

 

[Roy Munson]

WELL yes that is true...but unnatural or not forcing a little one to live..in my eyes...is more ethical than forcing 2 to mate that wouldnt otherwise.
As an animal lover, I dont want to watch something starve itself to death. Forcing an animal to live benefits the animal.

But there is something about tricking animals to mate and create babies that can only benefit the breeders wallet.

From a purely naturalistic point of view, the organism's primary function is to pass on its genes. Both parents of hybrid offspring accomplish this. Sounds pretty natural to me, and in fact, it happens in nature. You will be hard pressed to find little cans of tuna with pinkies soaking in them strewn around the Southeast U.S.. I don't dig hybrids, but it's not an ethical issue for me.

 

[starsevol]

Buy the parents of hybrids WANT to breed with their own kind. But it is not what WE want, so we fool them.

Someday they will rise up and smite us

 

[starsevol]

Ahhh...its like, as a living natural organism YOU want to pass on your genes too.
So someone sets up a date with you and Jessica Simpson, shuts off a light, and switches her with Roseanne Barr.....

 

[E. g. guttata]

Even though I dont know definately that my girls are rootbeers, based on the breeders creamsicle project I believe they probably are.

And I dont think its possible to "pollute" hybrid lines, just as I dont think that breeding a poodle/lab to a collie/shepard makes it more of a mutt than it was before.

Ahhh, but what if the breeder breeeding the hybrids wants to breed a 50% corn to a 50% corn? In that case, you would theoretically get a 50% corn hatchling, keeping the hybrid line "pure". However, if you substitute one of those 50% corns with a 100% corn, and the breeder wants 50% corn offspring, is his line now not "polluted" when those hatchlings emerge 75% corn? Same argument for those that want 100% corn, and end up hatching out 75% corns. It works both ways, but only if the breeder is looking for a particular result. If they do not get that result, then their line is now polluted and ruined, even if it is a hybrid line.

 

[ultimuttone]

Someday they will rise up and smite us

I only wish I could post the picture that conjured up in my head :grin01: :sidestep:

 

[starsevol]

I am either not breeding them again. Or labeling the offspring rootbeers and creams...
that is that..

 

[starsevol]

lol ultim!!

come on..do tell!!!

 

[ultimuttone]

Ahhh...its like, as a living natural organism YOU want to pass on your genes too.
So someone sets up a date with you and Jessica Simpson, shuts off a light, and switches her with Roseanne Barr.....

Enough Tequila and I think a version of that has happened to more than one of us :roflmao:

 

[starsevol]

Traci youre killing me here!
I just blew screwdriver out my nose

 

[ultimuttone]

And don't you know it was some giant serpents switching that hottie on you

I think I need some sleep

 

[Roy Munson]

Ahhh...its like, as a living natural organism YOU want to pass on your genes too.
So someone sets up a date with you and Jessica Simpson, shuts off a light, and switches her with Roseanne Barr.....

Well, you know the old saying: "Any port in a storm..."

 

[starsevol]

my little stupid rant generated alot of pages...
I wish it could have been as nice elsewhere
I love this forum..I love these people...
well most of them lol...

just was so devistated when I thought about it....you know..that my girls are probably rootbeers...and that I myself might have done some damage..that part makes my heart hurt...

 

[Serpwidgets]

Buy the parents of hybrids WANT to breed with their own kind. But it is not what WE want, so we fool them.

So you're saying that it is the actual "fooling" in and of itself that is "wrong?" Like the animal is embarrassed or somehow "harmed" by being tricked? I'm REALLY lost now.