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Why I Hate Hybrids - Controversial

the animal is not embarassed...or harmed...but when you have to resort to that to make animals mate..then there is something wrong with YOU for wanting something so unnatural so badly....especially with kings that might just eat their mate for dinner....

not a personal attack..just a philosophy

the whole if they wont do it on their own dont trick them rule...
 
Don't beat yourself up over it. You can't change the past and I doubt it has made any devastating impact on anyone's collection. Sell them now under what 'name' you are comfortable with, just be honest about what you do or don't know about them. That is all you can do. Life is too short for should'ves. :)
 
Serpwidgets said:
So you're saying that it is the actual "fooling" in and of itself that is "wrong?" Like the animal is embarrassed or somehow "harmed" by being tricked? I'm REALLY lost now.

Well, it would really ruin a kingsnake's rep if his friends found out that he was making it with a prey item. The shame. ;)
 
I still love my girls...Keeper is the first snake I ever hatched..I may never breed her again..or breed her once more to keep a baby from the first corn I ever hatched....
but I VALUE my corns that I think are pure more...

most people dont like striped corns but my 3 just rock my world...
 
Hibirds Are As Evil As Fruits Of The Debil!

Hibrid breeders rank right up there with worst of the worst! They, like the Queen and the Rothschilds masterminded the Soviet overthrow, so that they could reclaim lands they had annexed during the Holy Roman Empire. It's a known fact there's a society of the five wealthiest people in the world, called the Pentaverate, who run everything and meet three times a year at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as "The Meadows."

Why do you think Scotland's not been able to get independence? Because Hibird Breeders, the Queen, the Pentaverate and those English dome heads in West Minster won't have it. Who are the other members of this pentaverate besides Hibird breeders you ask? The Queen, the Rothchilds, the Gettys, the Vatican, and Colonel Sanders! Oh, I hated the Colonel with his wee beady eyes. And that smug look on his face. The Colonel puts an addictive chemical in the chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly.

IT IS ALL HERESAY! DOOM ON YOU, HIBIRD BRINGERS! THE MADNESS MUST BE STOPPED! :angry01:

Put me down for......."neah". :)
 
Serp said:
So I take it that braining, lizard scenting, chicken, tuna, and other ways to trick stubborn hatchlings into eating something they'd normally not eat, are also unethical and wrong.

Cornsnakes don't eat lizards or chickens? Maybe not as hatchlings, but the fact that its programmed into their instinct as food is another thing. Braining is plausible too. I've had many a snake squeeze a live mouse to the point that its grey-matter ended up on the outside, when they smelled it it made them squeeze harder and act more aggressive to the food.

For some reason those don't seem as inherently bad as tricking a snake that eats snakes to get it's 'jiggy on' with it instead. Not to mention most of my corns are very skittish from the scent of my kingsnake on my hands, so I can't imagine how they must feel being in a container with one for breeding purposes.

Tuna juice, I think that's a little out of their range. ;)

Besides, you should know that's all a moot point with me anyway. If a stubborn or non-feeder doesn't have the will to eat on its own, I'm certainly not going to force the issue for my own selfish purposes. That's the whole reason I got a kingsnake.


Roy said:
Not if you consider that the only reason to force them to live is that you want them to.In the natural course of things, these little ones would die.

If they don't eat in a reasonable amount of time around here, I am no safe haven from Nature or God.


I think the sarcastic folks are just out now to try and prove their points. Whatever they may be. Nit-picking any little thing to death whether they have anything to do with the subject or not. Seems to be the way it always ends up. So.. :wavey:
 
Taceas said:
If they don't eat in a reasonable amount of time around here, I am no safe haven from Nature or God.


I think the sarcastic folks are just out now to try and prove their points. Whatever they may be. Nit-picking any little thing to death whether they have anything to do with the subject or not. Seems to be the way it always ends up. So.. :wavey:

FYI: The quote you attribute to me was not mine.
 
Oh, Misty. I think we are just trying to keep the subject on the light side. We all have differing opinions and it is great that they can be shared in a friendly way.
 
ultimuttone said:
Oh, Misty. I think we are just trying to keep the subject on the light side. We all have differing opinions and it is great that they can be shared in a friendly way.

Amen sister!
 
hmm... I am in a pickle than :-/

I'm a hybrid, as I am mostly irish and have a few other nationalities.... so does that mean that I should not breed with anyone? as it'll screw up my babies? since if we let nature take its place there would never be any interacial acts.... which means that somewhere down the line we'd end up banging our family members..... :shrugs:

I guess if I ever sell any of my future kids on E-bay I'll be sure to list them as mutts than.
 
I'm really in a pickle now :-/ Guiness is beer from Ireland right? well like the cans of tuna fish in the wild, I myself have found Heinikin :)
 
Oh, and BTW, I've heard from more than one person that crossing king X corn does not always require "trickery." So I'm curious on that point, too... if two individuals WANT to breed each other, is that particular mating "wrong" or is it just the ones where they are "tricked" into mating?
 
how can you trick a snake thats prone to eat another snake tricked into breeding? it reminds me of preying mantids, if they dont wanna mate belive me the female will kill the male.
 
Serpwidgets said:
So I'm curious on that point, too... if two individuals WANT to breed each other, is that particular mating "wrong" or is it just the ones where they are "tricked" into mating?

Wait, are you talking about snakes or Irishmen? :shrugs:
 
When I was asking around about a particular cross I am interested in trying some day, the only real advice I got on the mating was to use a male corn-because they would be more easily aroused.
I would think the corn x emoryi would be even less 'tricky'.
Since we are on the subject anyway...any thoughts?
 
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